Cal Riders - How real are these sound regulations?
Posted February 08, 2003 - 03:21 PM
I definitely need an aftermarket silencer, so I bought an FMF Q which is on back-order for 3-4 weeks. My buddy is under the impression that I may be sacrificing some power for the quieter sound. He's got me also thinking the thing is going to sound like a scooter.
I wouldn't mind getting a non-quiet pipe (I guess I don't care about the sound) as long as the pipie has a sparky in it. The whole point would be to be legal on trails.
BUT, how real is the new sound law??? Are they checking, have people been told to pack up and go home?
What silencers are people running and do you guys think it even matters.
Lemme know. Thanks, Bud
Posted February 08, 2003 - 04:05 PM
They won't let you ride without a spark arrestor.
Posted February 08, 2003 - 04:24 PM
Posted February 08, 2003 - 04:36 PM
Posted February 08, 2003 - 06:20 PM
03yz250f, tag tripple clamps, answer pro tapers, pro moto sparky.
Posted February 09, 2003 - 02:37 AM
The CRD company is out of France, their website (in mostly English) is >CRD Website< with lots of power curve graphs. They have a full Ti system that looks pretty good.
Just throwing this out to illustrate another choice in the quest to be legal.
Posted February 09, 2003 - 05:54 AM
However, they did not test any of our bikes nor did they have the equipment to do so.
I believe there is a grace period on sound until April 1st
Posted February 09, 2003 - 08:00 AM
Did the pamphlet with info that the rangers gave say they would be checking at the gate or just spot checking?
I want to comform to the law, but the way I see it, noone I ride with would get below 96 dB, so we'd have to go hame anyway.
Posted February 09, 2003 - 09:03 AM
They were doing sound checks at the Pinnicles Staging area this weekend according to some informed sources. I have not confirmed this as fact.
Just passing along what I've been hearing.
Posted February 10, 2003 - 12:27 PM
Posted February 11, 2003 - 08:27 PM
Posted February 12, 2003 - 10:36 AM
since the 1 Ranger Ive ran into 2X was a prick
No kidding! We were up at Gorman and it was December and raining/snowing - the guy is chapping my hide about not having a spark arrestor. My buddy is a fireman and says there is literally no chance of starting a fire.
His reply? "I've seen it go up on days just like this".... WHATEVER.
Posted February 12, 2003 - 03:42 PM
1. It does NOT sound like a scooter, your buddy is full of it.
2. It did not affect my power measurably compared to my Power Core4 SA, which was significantly louder.
3. Someone experimented with packing methods and materials and posted results elsewhere on this forum. I believe he found that the setup with loose MSR packing and a PowerBomb was around 94.
4. Alone and stock, the Q does not get it below 96 if the ranger is testing it the right way at the right rpm. If they are fudging the test, you might pass with just a Q.
5. Any other pipe (with POSSIBLE exception of CRD) will affect power if it is below 96DB. Best setup seems to be PowerBomb, Q muffler with loose MSR packing material. You will need to repack often, like maybe every other weekend.
6. We don't really know when and where they will be enforcing first. I do know that you run a high risk at BLM-permitted organized races. And wherever rangers frequent such as designated OHV areas.
Posted February 12, 2003 - 04:24 PM
I guess I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't