2003 WR450 Motor in 250 Aluminum Chassis


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  • tpgsxr750

Posted January 28, 2009 - 10:09 AM

#1

I have an 03 wr450 that I'd like to put into an aluminum chassis. The 450 aluminum chassis seem to be much more difficult to find and much more expensive. Has anyone else tried this project? How much modification to the frame is required to make the 450 motor fit?

  • grayracer513

Posted January 28, 2009 - 11:23 AM

#2

I would think the mods would be considerable. Using a 450 chassis is already a big enough PITA that it simply isn't worth the trouble considering the cost of an '06 YZ450.

  • MuDPoUNdeR

Posted January 28, 2009 - 04:33 PM

#3

I thought about something like this for a 426. You have to consider a lot of things. Subframe, triple clamps, swingarm, your exhaust will have to be custom fit most likely to the subframe, your front mount motor bolts will have to be custom built, check to see if your master cylinder will fit ... These are just a few .... Their are so many things you have to consider and once you have, you will see it's a hell of a lot cheaper and a lot less headache if you just buy a newer bike.

(for my case) Even if you say you did it for California green and red sticker laws the DMV sticker goes by your frame ... not the engine. So if I swapped my '02 motor (green sticker) into a '07 frame it would now be considered a red sticker bike (seasonal riding times)

  • grayracer513

Posted January 28, 2009 - 04:44 PM

#4

... your front mount motor bolts will have to be custom built, ...

To say nothing of the bottom motor mount point and the head stays. Then, there's the question of the oil supply....

  • 426 NOOB

Posted January 28, 2009 - 04:44 PM

#5

so much work. definitely will not be worth the headaches.

  • hillclimbguy

Posted January 28, 2009 - 10:25 PM

#6

There are plenty of AF 450s out there that guys are letting go cheap. Putting a old motor in a new frame would be a PITA. Just my two cents.

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  • MuDPoUNdeR

Posted January 29, 2009 - 07:41 AM

#7

To say nothing of the bottom motor mount point and the head stays. Then, there's the question of the oil supply....


Do you have to move the bottom motor mount? I thought that one lined up ...

  • grayracer513

Posted January 29, 2009 - 08:36 AM

#8

Do you have to move the bottom motor mount? I thought that one lined up ...

We're talking about a 450 in a 250 2 stroke frame. I wouldn't bet on it. There's also very likely NOT enough room for the carb as it is, and the down tube split is higher on the 2-stroke, so it may interfere with the header.

  • LEMMON1

Posted January 29, 2009 - 12:58 PM

#9

i think he meant a 250F frame...o mayb i could be wrong

  • tpgsxr750

Posted January 30, 2009 - 07:39 AM

#10

I should have clarified, I did mean a 450 four stroke motor in a 250 four stroke aluminum chassis. I'm posting this for a friend of mine and he''s told me that there are very few 450 aluminum frames floating around and the ones that are are 3-4 times the cost of a 250 frame. I was talking to him about the conversion and he seemed to think that aside from the frame, subframe, rear suspension linkage, and possible the motor mounts everything else should bolt up. I wanted to see if anyone else had attempted this mod either with a 450 or 250 aluminum frame with an older motor to see if they could verify the parts bolting up and whether or not it's worth the headaches. His current 03 motor has been completely rebuilt but his frame and subframe have taken 300 or so hours of abuse and while he loves the motor he figured he could drop a few pounds and put himself in a fresher chassis.

Thank You to everyone that's posted.

  • grayracer513

Posted January 30, 2009 - 09:56 AM

#11

... he figured he could drop a few pounds ....

He's wrong. The aluminum YZ450 was 1 pound lighter than the steel '05 model. The frame is not about weight.

  • tpgsxr750

Posted January 31, 2009 - 01:22 PM

#12

So his plan is to lose a pound and upgrade to a better frame that doesn't have the stress cracks that his current bike has. Like I said before, I'm not the one contemplating the swap, just trying to get some info for a buddy. Thank You





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