Engine Ice


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  • phynx

Posted January 22, 2009 - 11:18 PM

#1

[COLOR="Blue"]What do you guys think about Engine ice? Is it worth the money or just mix a batch of Preston stronger?[/COLOR]

  • brad the best

Posted January 22, 2009 - 11:49 PM

#2

i run it , my bike has never overheated since i swapped over .

some one else will recommend something better though , there is always something better .

i have had good experiences with it though .

don't use automotive coolant , if it has any silica in it your water pump will last about a month . Yamaha's like fancy coolant .

be prepared for the propylene vs ethylene glycol debate .

from what i have herd propylene is better in aluminum because of the metals porosity . not gonna go into it to much , again just what i have read , never put it under a microscope to see how well the two bond with aluminum .

  • MaddogYZ

Posted January 23, 2009 - 10:04 AM

#3

Mixing antifreeze (prestone) stronger will make you're cooling efficiency worse. Ethleyne glycol prevents freezing, it does not improve thermal transfer. I've heard very good results from people that swithced to Engine Ice, it's only worth it if you have overheating issues, otherwise just run a standard 50/50 mix of common antifreeze.

  • SJMC_DON

Posted January 23, 2009 - 10:43 AM

#4

I have never ran anything but engine ice :banana: It will boil over under extreme conditions (mud caked rads in tight technical stuff) but it's rare. Engine Ice is also "environmentally friendly":thumbsup:

Search this forum for "Evans". That is the coolant that I have heard about that is supposed to be the absolute best but in my opinion, you cannot go wrong with Engine Ice... What is it, $20 for a 1/2 gallon... not really expensive when compared to oil and gas:busted:

  • phatcat99

Posted January 23, 2009 - 10:51 AM

#5

I've ran Engine Ice for about a year now & have never overheated. I ride rocky, tight technical trails. I overheated 3x on standard coolant prior to making the switch.

  • Kirkster

Posted January 23, 2009 - 01:07 PM

#6

I have been running engine ice since I put on the rad guards.

I can still boil it over when the going gets really bad...

K

  • SUnruh

Posted January 23, 2009 - 01:15 PM

#7

What is it, $20 for a 1/2 gallon... not really expensive when compared to oil and gas:busted:


it's half water.

so, you dont mind paying $10 for a quart of water?

  • SJMC_DON

Posted January 23, 2009 - 01:47 PM

#8

it's half water.

so, you dont mind paying $10 for a quart of water?


It maybe half water giving it excellent heat exchange and boiling points but the other half is an excellent corrosion inhibitor with similar properties allowing us to keep it in the bike for years... so yes, I would say it's money well spent.

In your part of the world water is hard and not overly corrosive but will develop a lot of scale especially if it evaporates, where I live the soft water out of the tap is not something you want to put into your cooling system either.... sure we can go down and get a cheap bottle of drinking water or DI and mix it with an off the shelf coolant for a lot cheaper but my experience tells me that does you no good when you have to shut the bike off because the going is slow and your boiling over.

If they sold it in a concentrate cheaper... I would buy it, but comparatively speaking with other things I either pour into the bike or bolt onto it and factoring in how long it lasts I would say $20 is a steal:excuseme:

What do you use?

  • SXP

Posted January 23, 2009 - 02:15 PM

#9

I hope people don't think their bikes are running cooler with the likes of Engine Ice and Evans. These coolants just have higher boiling points than a 50:50 mix of regular coolant/water (which boils at ~260 deg F). So, if your bike with EI or Evans doesn't boil over now, when it did with a 50:50 mix of regular coolant under similar conditions, then you can bet it's running hotter than 260 deg, but under the boiling point of the EI/Evans, whatever that is. The fact that these engines don't melt down is a testament to the wide tolerance margins built into these bikes.

  • KennyMc

Posted January 23, 2009 - 02:18 PM

#10

It maybe half water giving it excellent heat exchange and boiling points but the other half is an excellent corrosion inhibitor with similar properties allowing us to keep it in the bike for years... so yes, I would say it's money well spent.

In your part of the world water is hard and not overly corrosive but will develop a lot of scale especially if it evaporates, where I live the soft water out of the tap is not something you want to put into your cooling system either.... sure we can go down and get a cheap bottle of drinking water or DI and mix it with an off the shelf coolant for a lot cheaper but my experience tells me that does you no good when you have to shut the bike off because the going is slow and your boiling over.

If they sold it in a concentrate cheaper... I would buy it, but comparatively speaking with other things I either pour into the bike or bolt onto it and factoring in how long it lasts I would say $20 is a steal:excuseme:

What do you use?


I use it as well. And let's not forget, it's blue which really acccents the whole bike.:banana:

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  • JSanfilippo

Posted January 23, 2009 - 02:22 PM

#11

50% distilled water
50% prestone
Water wetter mixed in for 1 gal.

No issues. Mixed on the cheap!

  • wobblyknobby

Posted January 23, 2009 - 02:25 PM

#12

+1 on the engine ice. I use it in my Wr426. With the higher boiling temp, u can remove the overflow bottle saving a couple pounds.

  • SXP

Posted January 23, 2009 - 02:26 PM

#13

50% distilled water
50% prestone
Water wetter mixed in for 1 gal.

No issues. Mixed on the cheap!


HEY! You stole my patented formula:bonk: Bad gas for you:lol:

  • JSanfilippo

Posted January 23, 2009 - 02:37 PM

#14

:lol:

I did a search a long while back on what worked and stumbled on to the mixture. I don't remember if its 50/50 water/prestone or 75/25 water/ prestone I think its the latter because I don't have to worry about freezing but its something along those lines...the only thing I remember for sure was the mix was one whole gallon.

I'm thinking of mixing in more water wetter though. There is a guy over on the YZ forum that mixes a whole bottle of WW to 1 gallon of mixture.

Have you found the mix loses its red tint after a while? The extra coolant in my overflow tank is almost clear now :banana:

  • 123BigcoopDawg576

Posted January 23, 2009 - 02:42 PM

#15

it's blue which really acccents the whole bike.:banana:


that sold me right there:worthy:

actually im a desert/baja/dual sport guy so i just regual 50-50 (for bikes)...if i find that i need to "cool" the bike off a bit well i just get on the gas!!! :lol:

  • SJMC_DON

Posted January 23, 2009 - 02:59 PM

#16

I hope people don't think their bikes are running cooler with the likes of Engine Ice and Evans. These coolants just have higher boiling points than a 50:50 mix of regular coolant/water (which boils at ~260 deg F). So, if your bike with EI or Evans doesn't boil over now, when it did with a 50:50 mix of regular coolant under similar conditions, then you can bet it's running hotter than 260 deg, but under the boiling point of the EI/Evans, whatever that is. The fact that these engines don't melt down is a testament to the wide tolerance margins built into these bikes.


Exactly - I just wanna keep the coolant in the bike... there was however an oil additive (2 cool or something like that) that touted cooler operating temps... anyone using this?

  • texas_hippie

Posted January 23, 2009 - 05:54 PM

#17

Ok, so does anyone know what the yamaha OEM coolant is?

  • SXP

Posted January 23, 2009 - 06:20 PM

#18

:lol:

Have you found the mix loses its red tint after a while? The extra coolant in my overflow tank is almost clear now :banana:


Can't really say 'cause I use the Prestone Extended Life 5year/150K stuff that's orange/red to begin with.

  • phynx

Posted January 23, 2009 - 06:43 PM

#19

:lol:

I use it as well. And let's not forget, it's blue which really acccents the whole bike.:banana:



  • phynx

Posted January 23, 2009 - 06:45 PM

#20

:banana:

Ok, so does anyone know what the yamaha OEM coolant is?






 
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