Grease ?

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  • Dizzy_Al

Posted 03 February 2003 - 04:05 PM

#1


I am going to be assembling my wr as soon as it comes in.
Everybody says to grease her well,what type of grease will i need ??

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  • Pooley

Posted 03 February 2003 - 04:13 PM

#2

Yamaha specifies lithium-soap based grease and molybdenum disulfide grease. Search under winter maintenance as Wrooster had some great write ups about greasing the essentials as well as some info on the type of grease he uses/prefers which is less expensive and probably better than what the dealers sell. Have fun with the new ride.

  • ButchWR250F

Posted 03 February 2003 - 04:13 PM

#3

Hi Dizzy_Al

It's a good thing you're going to grease it. I was shocked to find the linkage as dry as it was on my new bike. It's not anymore though :)

I used BelRay Waterproof grease. I've had really good luck with it throughout the years, so no reason to change.
I'd use any good waterproof grease you can get. Probably boat axle grease would work too. Now that I think of it, that's what I used in the steering head bearings.

The most important thing is to clean the bearings thoroughly, and dry them completely (don't spin them with the air gun, not a good idea).
After they are cleaned and dried, use enough grease to completely cover everything. Grease type is semi important, as you want to use something waterproof, but quantity is equally as important. Get as much in there as possible.

Good Luck and happy greasing!!!!!!

  • wrooster

Posted 03 February 2003 - 05:30 PM

#4

grease, now that's a topic worth a few thousand words...

first some info... grease consists of two components, the 'carrier' and the 'oil'. heat causes the carrier to bleed out the oil, which then lubricates the local metal surfaces. there are several popular carriers, the two most prevalent are lithium and aluminum. the properties of a given grease are dependent upon both the carrier and the oil. lithium based greases are popular for their low cost and wide range of applications. newer lithium complex based greases also rival aluminum based greases for water repelency. in some cases, additives such as moly are added to the grease to increase severe service lubricating properties. by the way, greases are evaluated using a standardized suite of ASTM tests, which then allows for apples-apples comparison between types and brands. one other way to find a good grease is to have a conversation with the equipment maintenance folks at a coal mine. :*)

in short, use a quality grease which has good water repelency and good Timken 'OK' and '4-ball' ratings.

for your linkage/swingarm, read this thread:
linkage teardown notes

for your headset, and this thread:
winter maintenance notes

other notes...

CRC/Sta-Lube STA-PLEX lithium complex grease (shown in the pics in my links above) has a higher Timken 4-Ball rating (ASTM D-2596), higher Timken OK Load (D-2509), and better water washout resistance (ASTM D-1264) than many more expensive greases, even Amsoil's $11/tub synthetic racing grease. best of all you can get a 1 pound tub of STA-PLEX at Pep Boys for around US$3.59.

Bel-Ray 'waterproof grease' is an aluminum complex grease, and for the most part aluminum bases provide the highest water repelency/washout resistance available. bel-ray's web page doesn't provide any ASTM test data.

jim aka the wrooster
'01 wr250f

  • av

Posted 05 February 2003 - 11:05 AM

#5

I couldn't find the "CRC/Sta-Lube STA-PLEX lithium complex grease" locally, we don't have Pep Boys near by, but I've heard a lot of recommendations for the BelRay grease that WRooster mentioned:

http://www.belray.co...waterproof.html

I just spoke to Kirk at Bardwell Yamaha (1-800-952-4270) and he will be ordering some of these 16 oz. BelRay grease tubs for their store incase anyone wants any (I'm getting a tub along with my e-cam, their listed retail price is $4 per tub but it may cost less through Bardwell)...

BTW, they have an 02 WR250F they want to get rid of for ~$4200 if anyone wants it - pretty good price if this is the OTD price if you ask me. He said they'll ship it too, not sure about shipping costs...

  • Ferd

Posted 03 April 2005 - 09:20 PM

#6

http://www.super-lub...cifications.htm

I had a hard time finding out what the best scores would be in these tests. Does anyone know how this stuff (The Grease) hold up? What's a 99% score? How do your favorite greases compare to this stuff?
Adam

  • justarider

Posted 03 April 2005 - 11:17 PM

#7

Here's another vote for the Belray Waterproof Grease. I've used it for years and never had a bearing failure with it due to this grease not meeting a spec. (Although I don't get the warm fuzzies when a lubricant manufacture doesn't list the specs on it's product. (Wrooster :thumbsup: )

The grease is easy to work with and stays put very very well. The size of the tub is just right. It's light blue in color, so you can tell when there's dirt in it or crud has gotten in, unlike some black greases or dark colored greases. I use it on all the linkages, swingarm bearings, steering bearings, wheel bearings, lever pivots, kickstarter pivots, anywhere the bike needs grease.

I would like to see the specs on the Belray products though, and their two stroke oil as well, which I've used exclusively for years as well. They seem to make great products.

  • RCannon

Posted 04 April 2005 - 04:54 AM

#8

I like Yamaha's version of the waterproof grease. The stuff is colored YZ blue so it matches the frame.

Seriously, it was cheap enough and appears to work well.

Be sure and use something. It is shocking to see the pivots put together with nothing in them. Most new bikes I have worked with have no lube in the linkages.

I suppose it would be too costly to clean up on the assembly line???

  • Wrbiker

Posted 16 April 2005 - 10:04 AM

#9

http://www.maximausa...misc/grease.asp

how about this maxima waterproof grease..

  • ThumpItGood

Posted 16 April 2005 - 05:27 PM

#10

I use the yamaha marine grease for our boat's trim system. Works good and stays on, very sticky stuff.

  • dendvc

Posted 17 April 2005 - 05:38 AM

#11

I also found pep boys in my area didn't carry the sta-plex

But if you go to napa, they will have the cartrages, and can get you the tub.

  • 250Thumpher

Posted 17 April 2005 - 07:25 AM

#12

Kragen, Autozone, Napa, should have Sta-Lube. Local auto stores should have it too. This one local auto store which I always go to here in Hayward has it. They have the white one, marinie grease, purple bearing grease, heady duty grease.........

I just use Marine grease. Works great and its cheap.

  • chevymx78

Posted 09 August 2005 - 08:17 PM

#13

i use the belray waterproof grease, always had goodluck with it and not going to change. its not too expensive and never had a problem.



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