I'm on the fence. . .
Posted January 21, 2003 - 08:17 PM
I was surprised. I'm just curious and don't want to take the wind out of anybody's sails as I too am looking into the purchase of a WR my self, but why throw down $6800.00 approx. then throw several thousands of dollars in mods into it ? Is it not good enough out of the box ? I too would put guards on it, but some of the lists sounded like they are only buying the bike for the motor and replacing everything else. (exception for super motard guys) I'm on the fence with this delima as it sounds like some of these WR's are CA Green and some are RED Stickered....
Now I'm looking at a Cannondale E440R as a contender. It's about the same ammount of money, with all of the goodies already on it. I love Yamaha as a brand (own one of their fantastic boats), but I come from a DH MTB background so the Cannondale brand intrigues me as well. I live near the beach, but will also be riding alot in Mammoth Lakes area of CA 8,000 ft. I'm not overly mechanically inclined so re-jetting carbs for altitude are a turn off. I could use your guys expertise on this one.
Posted January 22, 2003 - 03:45 AM
Posted January 22, 2003 - 04:23 AM
Mechanically speaking the bike is ready to race right out of the box. I will strip it down though and actually put some grease on the bearings in the suspension and steering head. They tend to skimp a little during production. No need to wear it out before it breaks in.
Posted January 22, 2003 - 05:03 AM
As stated and I agree the bike comes out of the box ready to ride.
For a pro rider, Yes that person will put more money in to the bike for suspension, engine, lighter parts and so on.
For the Average riding Geek like me and you, Bars, tires when they wear out, trick add-ons that ya really don't need but are cool. Heck a Pipe alone will run 200 - 600 depending on what and whos ya buy.
Any Bike "ANY BIKE" no matter if it is European, Italian or American is ready to ride out of the box.
everyone "EVERYONE" puts at least a grand or more into the bike after they get it. The argument that the Cdale is better or the KTM is better, ya have to put money into a Japanese bike is IMO not an argument at all.
Each bike owner will setup his or hers bike as they like it.
Posted January 22, 2003 - 07:18 AM
My buddies XR650R was neutered as well and without purchasing the Power Up kit from Honda as a minimum, the thing is a big disappointment.
My buddy bought a KTM 520 last year and his is ready just the way it comes.
Posted January 22, 2003 - 08:11 AM
You make a very good point about the crap that Yamaha puts on the US model WR's. I guess when I meant 'out of the box' I was assuming these basic mods have already been done. The reason I assumed that is because our dealers here make these basic mods for you before you even pick up the new bikes.
Posted January 22, 2003 - 08:24 AM
The grey wire changes the timing slightly in mid RPM which leads to a rough spot in the engine, to please the government (free).
The throttle stop is in place so it only allows the throttle to open half way so that "at half throttle" (which is now 1/4 throttle) where the testing is done it will please the government ($5).
The exhaust plug is in to keep it quiet enough to pass sound laws. Replace with a quiet, free flow insert like a Vortip ($70 approx).
The airbox mod is nothing but a way to get more air in once the ehxaust is opened up (free).
The light blue wire gives a stronger spark in neutral allowing for easier starts and less plug fouling (free).
Stock tires are supposed to be junk but I'm not a good enough rider yet to justify new tires before they wear out.
Kouba T-handle makes trailside adjustments on fuel screw easy in order to compensate for different temps and elevations (within reason) without re-jetting ($15).
Many people here have bikes set up for riding at elevation and you can emulate their setups and forget it. Changing jets is really easy and if you do some research on who rides at similar elevations with the same level of bike mods you might have to only do this once in your life. It will make your bike run smoother, start easier, foul plugs less and give better performance.
All stock bars are soft. Replace when you bend them.
The necessary add-ons are radiator guards, hand guards and maybe a skid plate of some sort. Cheap insurance.
The bike has lots more to give when opened up but if you are new to motorcycling it will have plenty of punch for you for a while. All in all you can have a modified bike with all the necessary goodies for the cost of one nasty get off and a damaged radiatior. Buy those guards first.
Posted January 22, 2003 - 03:59 PM
Posted January 22, 2003 - 09:08 PM
The WR is good out of the box. However you will need to cut the throttle stop down as stock it only allows 1/4 throttle to open. This only involves unscrewing a bolt and cutting it with a hack saw or preferebly a dremel tool. 2nd the stock exhaust baffle hole is only as big as a pencil, its very quiet but needs to be pulled for the engine to run properly, undo one bolt and pull it out. Since you live in CA, a good investment will be to purchase a different baffle like the Vortip from Baja Designs, will keep your exhaust sound level legal. Other things you can do as you go, like the handle bars, stock ones are steel and they will bend after the first crash. $80 will get you some aluminum renthals that can handle most any crash with out bending. Other then that the only items you will need to replace are those that wear out in time, chains, sprockets, tires etc.And as you learn the bike over time you can then decide if you need more power etc.
I am 6'3" and run tall handle bars (Renthal Jimmy Button High Bends) and risers (from Thumper-racing.net) and a taller seat. These are all comfort items, I rode the thing for a year before changing most things, except the Bars which I did right away. The power is plenty for most riding an racing, unless you are a pro.
Posted January 23, 2003 - 02:56 AM
At 220# for this bike I would recomend a 0.478 kg/mm fork spring rate and 5.6 kg/mm shock spring for motocross. That is what I had on my 2000 YZ426, and it handled great.
Hope I've helped some.
Posted January 23, 2003 - 07:10 AM
Posted January 23, 2003 - 09:12 AM