Took my Yammie 07 WR 450 for revalve and respring to George at ESP and just got it back in only 3 days. Just want to say what a great guy he is who does a good job at a fair price. As I was setting the sag today and going over what he did for me with him, he noticed a problem with my Scott's dampener and spent 20 minutes fixing it at no charge. This is the kind of service that does not exist anymore. Any of you who need suspension work or any other work for that matter see him in La Crescenta (greater LA area).:thumbsup:
ESP and suspension work
Started by weathergeek, Nov 14 2008 06:59 PM
50 replies to this topic
Posted 14 November 2008 - 06:59 PM
Took my Yammie 07 WR 450 for revalve and respring to George at ESP and just got it back in only 3 days. Just want to say what a great guy he is who does a good job at a fair price. As I was setting the sag today and going over what he did for me with him, he noticed a problem with my Scott's dampener and spent 20 minutes fixing it at no charge. This is the kind of service that does not exist anymore. Any of you who need suspension work or any other work for that matter see him in La Crescenta (greater LA area).:thumbsup:
Posted 14 November 2008 - 07:28 PM
+2
George has done both my bikes. He's a good guy and does great work! :thumbsup:
George has done both my bikes. He's a good guy and does great work! :thumbsup:
Posted 15 November 2008 - 01:08 AM
+3 George is the best. One of the nicest and most knowledgeable guys you'll meet.
Posted 15 November 2008 - 03:08 AM
+4 great guy. i used to always run into him around town untill i moved...he probly got sick of me always asking him questions lol
ps. he worked at scotts for quite some time back in the day
and i have to add that dave j's fluid feels really good in my ESP suspension
ps. he worked at scotts for quite some time back in the day
and i have to add that dave j's fluid feels really good in my ESP suspension
Posted 15 November 2008 - 03:27 AM
+5! George kept me from spending un needed dollars on a suspension rebuild a few times.
Posted 15 November 2008 - 06:18 AM
+7 he did my bike and my wifes bike. :thumbsup:
Bruce you will be stocked when you hit the whoops for the first time.
Bruce you will be stocked when you hit the whoops for the first time.
Posted 15 November 2008 - 06:20 AM
Krannie said:
+5! George kept me from spending un needed dollars on a suspension rebuild a few times.
ditto. very knowledgeble, great guy, great work
Posted 15 November 2008 - 08:22 AM
man all these +++ I might just need to take my suspension there, thanks guys :thumbsup:
Posted 15 November 2008 - 08:55 AM
Old-Man said:
+7 he did my bike and my wifes bike. :thumbsup:
Bruce you will be stocked when you hit the whoops for the first time.
Bruce you will be stocked when you hit the whoops for the first time.
Posted 15 November 2008 - 09:24 AM
+9-10 - he did my 08WR and i love it... looks like he's cornered the market in socal.
Posted 15 November 2008 - 12:58 PM
weathergeek said:
I can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am going outside today to make love to it,:awww: :jawdrop: wash it, clean it and talk to it. It seems very happy this AM.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
In that order? I'd do it in reverse as I prefer them clean before I get it on!:smirk:
Oh, and another shout-out for George. He's done all three of my bikes.
Posted 15 November 2008 - 03:06 PM
Esp did two of my YZF's, he is ok but very old school.
There are lots of good tuners out there that are as good or better.
If I were riding a Honda, I would go to Precision Concepts, they have done years of R&D with Honda offroad.
ACME susp was the man when it came to KYB's, too bad he recently passed away.
It really depends on your needs and your ability, but I prefere a tuner who actually tests his work.
Just keeping it fair and balanced.
There are lots of good tuners out there that are as good or better.
If I were riding a Honda, I would go to Precision Concepts, they have done years of R&D with Honda offroad.
ACME susp was the man when it came to KYB's, too bad he recently passed away.
It really depends on your needs and your ability, but I prefere a tuner who actually tests his work.
Just keeping it fair and balanced.
Posted 15 November 2008 - 04:27 PM
ksrrider said:
Esp did two of my YZF's, he is ok but very old school.
There are lots of good tuners out there that are as good or better.
If I were riding a Honda, I would go to Precision Concepts, they have done years of R&D with Honda offroad.
ACME susp was the man when it came to KYB's, too bad he recently passed away.
It really depends on your needs and your ability, but I prefere a tuner who actually tests his work.
Just keeping it fair and balanced.
There are lots of good tuners out there that are as good or better.
If I were riding a Honda, I would go to Precision Concepts, they have done years of R&D with Honda offroad.
ACME susp was the man when it came to KYB's, too bad he recently passed away.
It really depends on your needs and your ability, but I prefere a tuner who actually tests his work.
Just keeping it fair and balanced.
just out of curiosity, why did you go back to ESP with your second yzf if u didnt care for it on your first bike?
Posted 15 November 2008 - 06:21 PM
cjxrider125 said:
just out of curiosity, why did you go back to ESP with your second yzf if u didnt care for it on your first bike?
Because I had returned from a 18 year sabbatical from riding and really wasn't up to date with the tuners, I should have done more homework. Shortly after I had my YZ450 done (3rd bike) I met Javier w/Trail Tricks, he re-valved my forks and they were much better. It turned out ESP had only slightly shimmed my base valve, so they were harsh in the mid stroke, not what I want for off road.
Now I have a KTM and it is plush for racing and all around. different methods of tuning work for different riders. I prefer TT for my KTM over ESP, and I have ridden his stuff on KTM's.
Again, ESP has a great reputation, but George is primarily a track guy not an off road purist.
Posted 15 November 2008 - 06:24 PM
ksrrider said:
Because I had returned from a 18 year sabbatical from riding and really wasn't up to date with the tuners. Shortly after I had my YZ450 done (2nd bike) I met Javier w/Trail Tricks, he re-valved my forks and they were much better. It turned out ESP had only slightly shimmed my base valve, so they were harsh in the mid stroke, not what I want for off road.
Now I have a KTM and it is plush for racing and all around. different methods of tuning work for different riders. I prefer TT for my KTM over ESP, and I have ridden his stuff on KTM's.
Now I have a KTM and it is plush for racing and all around. different methods of tuning work for different riders. I prefer TT for my KTM over ESP, and I have ridden his stuff on KTM's.
Posted 15 November 2008 - 06:37 PM
weathergeek said:
I think you and I talked about Javier at Old Man's get together and you said if you are in with him he's good but if not.... After talking to you, I talked to a few others as well and decided on ESP, who told me if there are any issues bring the bike back and he will make it right. This is DEFINITELY not the way Javier does business with everybody. How can one run a business like that? But if it works for some...
Can't answer that, I just know what works better for me. And like I said in my previous post, I would entertain other tuners based on the bike I was riding. But I'm not here to defend a specific tuner, just suggest there are other good tuners.
Having said that, Javier DOES stand behind his work and will make it right, it's just he is a one man show and might not be as quick as ESP who has employees doing a lot of his work.
Posted 15 November 2008 - 06:50 PM
ksrrider said:
Can't answer that, I just know what works better for me. And like I said in my previous post, I would entertain other tuners based on the bike I was riding. But I'm not here to defend a specific tuner, just suggest there are other good tuners.
Having said that, Javier DOES stand behind his work and will make it right, it's just he is a one man show and might not be as quick as ESP who has employees doing a lot of his work.
Having said that, Javier DOES stand behind his work and will make it right, it's just he is a one man show and might not be as quick as ESP who has employees doing a lot of his work.
Posted 15 November 2008 - 07:47 PM
It seems like suspension discussions are just like tire discussions which are just like oil discussions. The good thing about them is that they are discussions.:thumbsup:
I have used RG3 for my last 2 bikes. Been very happy with them and they do the same thing. If not happy, bring it back for some fine tuning. Being 3 miles from my house is a benefit:smirk:
I have used RG3 for my last 2 bikes. Been very happy with them and they do the same thing. If not happy, bring it back for some fine tuning. Being 3 miles from my house is a benefit:smirk:
