2 Stroke Jetting Info
Posted 02 October 2008 - 08:21 PM
Here is the set-up or format in wich to follow please.
Year:
Model (RM, RMX, 125, 250):
Main jet:
Pilot Jet:
Air screw (turns out):
Needle model/Clip position:
Altitude where you ride:
Temperature where you ride:
Other mods (pipe, reeds, head carb mods, ect...) :
Degree of satisfaction:
So please add in your jetting. I will add my friends jetting as soon as we get it good. THANKS!!!
Posted 03 October 2008 - 02:43 AM
Contact Vetmxrider, he seems to have all the charts.
http://www.thumperta...5121&highlight=
Posted 03 October 2008 - 06:49 AM
Posted 03 October 2008 - 08:03 AM
94 RM250 w/ Keihin carb
170 Main
55 Pilot
needle 2 sizes LEANER than stock with the clip second from the top position
(R1471M Suzuki needle)
Air Screw 1.5
fuel: 50/50 110 Octane Torco Leaded Racing fuel and 94 Octane Sunoco Ultra mixed 32:1 with Klotz R50 or Klotz Super Techniplate
Stock Suzuki Pipe with FMF shorty silencer
2)
94 RM250 w/ Keihin carb
172 Main
55 pilot
R1471M Suzuki Needle clip in 3rd position
Air screw 1.0
fuel: AV100LL leaded 100 octane Aviation fuel mixed 32:1 with Klotz R50 or Klotz Super Techniplate
Stock Suzuki Pipe with FMF shorty silencer+
Riding Altitude: roughly sea-level to maybe 400' above max.
Posted 03 October 2008 - 09:33 AM
Model (RM, RMX, 125, 250): RMX with Mikuni VM38SS carb
Main jet: 360
Pilot Jet: 45
Air screw (turns out): 1.5
Needle model/Clip position: 6AEJ1-64 / 2nd
Altitude where you ride: ~700'
Temperature where you ride: 50-100+ F
Other mods (pipe, reeds, head carb mods, ect...) : PC pipe, Boyesen RAD valve, RM head & base gaskets, mild porting, Uni filter, 4.0 carb slide, float height 15mm
Degree of satisfaction: 100%
Oh, and on 87 octane gas mixed 53:1 with Golden Spectro
Posted 03 October 2008 - 10:18 AM
87 octane and Golden Spectro at 53:1 ???????
C'mon now !
Are you serious here or is that fuel/oil mix some sort of joke ?
I wouldn't run an 87 octane/Golden Spectro mix at any ratio even in my weed-whacker !!!
Every engine I have seen using GS oil fouls plugs like mad even when correctly jetted.
Posted 03 October 2008 - 10:32 AM
Posted 03 October 2008 - 02:24 PM
P.S. i dont even run 87 in my lawn mower man.
Posted 03 October 2008 - 04:06 PM
Posted 03 October 2008 - 04:44 PM
Posted 03 October 2008 - 06:22 PM
Posted 03 October 2008 - 06:37 PM
2 stokes for life said:
Then you're just throwing your money away. Unless the engine requires higher octane it will run better on lower octane.
Posted 03 October 2008 - 07:11 PM
2 stokes for life said:
Sounds good…. I agree… I hope they make your post a sticky. If you think / feel that my reply takes anything away from your post, or hurts the chance of it becoming a sticky, just let me know and I’ll be happy to remove it. No problem, no worries. Just jetting.
Posted 04 October 2008 - 03:12 AM
Vetmxrider said:
DUDE! all of your charts should be up on a sticky!
It took me a while to find a link that was close to one of your charts.
I have tried contacting the mod before and never even received a response.
Put together some charts and I'll forward it to Brian requesting a sticky.
Posted 04 October 2008 - 01:31 PM
Model: RM250
Main jet: 160
Pilot Jet: 50
Air screw (turns out): 1.5
Needle model/Clip position: 2
Altitude where you ride: 0 to 1,000 ft
Temperature where you ride: 50 to 100 degrees
Other mods (pipe, reeds, head carb mods, ect...): FMF Gnarly, FMF TurbineCore2 (just purchased), Boyesen Rad Valve.
Degree of satisfaction: Very happy, seems to have plenty of snap.
Also, I do run pump premium (92 or 93) and BelRay H1r at 40:1
I am a big proponent of not using too much octane. The local gas station actually sells 115 because there's so many hot rodders around. I tried it once straight up and another time 50/50 with less than stellar results. Clearly, in my case, because I did not have a hot rodded engine, the higher octane was just a waste of money.
In UncleAlpo's case, I believe that it's possible that he is getting great results with 87 octane. His main steed is an RMX and those work best in the low to mid rpm range, and if he's keeping it there, he may really be doing better than he would with 92.
Bonus points for AP in discovering this!
Posted 07 October 2008 - 09:06 AM
If you don't you ARE missing out in some circumstances.
Maybe I'm being presumptuous but because most list their A/S settings I'm guessing they keep them there.
The main and pilot are your "gross" or macro adjustments and changes come with changes in the seasons (or large changes in temps/altitudes as Vetmxrider's chart shows so well - nice job!).
But the airscrew is a "fine-tune" adjustment. Your fuel/air mixture can get thrown off a tad if weather conditions change enough if you run <1/2 throttle most of the time. And enough doesn't have to be all that much to make a noticeable difference.
Temperature, humidity, and altitude play a role in the adjustment
For example, with a 45 pilot my '02 250 ran best with the airscrew at roughly 2 turns out when the temps were mid 70s on Saturday. Yet the very next day it was mid 80s and a bit more humid and it didn't run as well - until I readjusted the airscrew by turning it out another 1/4 turn.
The good news is once you figure out what's best at a given conditions it's easy to adjust when the conditions change.
Try it out sometime, you'll probably think, "Why didn't I do this before?"
Posted 08 October 2008 - 09:31 AM
is it just a bigger factor on the smaller displacement engines?
maybe its also since kids skill levels vary more widely then adults?
Posted 08 October 2008 - 09:33 AM
Yamajeb said:
If you don't you ARE missing out in some circumstances.
Maybe I'm being presumptuous but because most list their A/S settings I'm guessing they keep them there.
The main and pilot are your "gross" or macro adjustments and changes come with changes in the seasons (or large changes in temps/altitudes as Vetmxrider's chart shows so well - nice job!).
But the airscrew is a "fine-tune" adjustment. Your fuel/air mixture can get thrown off a tad if weather conditions change enough if you run <1/2 throttle most of the time. And enough doesn't have to be all that much to make a noticeable difference.
Temperature, humidity, and altitude play a role in the adjustment
For example, with a 45 pilot my '02 250 ran best with the airscrew at roughly 2 turns out when the temps were mid 70s on Saturday. Yet the very next day it was mid 80s and a bit more humid and it didn't run as well - until I readjusted the airscrew by turning it out another 1/4 turn.
The good news is once you figure out what's best at a given conditions it's easy to adjust when the conditions change.
Try it out sometime, you'll probably think, "Why didn't I do this before?"
i have found the air screw to only "fine tune" the idle to 1/4 throttle range








