Temporary Sticky for XRL Oil Cooler Parts List.


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  • clintp

Posted 09 September 2008 - 12:59 PM

#1

If no one has posted the part #s for the 650L oil cooler stuff then here they are all nice & easy.  I plan on welding a couple of nuts to mount the cooler to but won't know how until I'm in the process.

HTH...

9894DBJ
Female Metric W/ internal Oring seat to AN male adapter
Unit price: 6.49
No. of units: 2
Total: 12.98

804606
Swivel-Seal 45 deg. Tube Hose End
Unit price: 16.49
No. of units: 1
Total: 16.49

809006
Swivel-Seal 90 deg. Low Profile Hose End
Unit price: 20.74
No. of units: 1
Total: 20.74

9894DBH
Female Metric W/ internal Oring seat to AN male adapter
Unit price: 6.49
No. of units: 1
Total: 6.49

812006
Swivel-Seal 120 deg. Tube Hose End
Unit price: 18.59
No. of units: 1
Total: 18.59

9919EFK
Metric thread male to AN adapter male.
Unit price: 10.35
No. of units: 1
Total: 10.35

9892086
Flare Reducer
Unit price: 7.99
No. of units: 1
Total: 7.99

800106
Swivel-Seal Straight Hose End
Unit price: 6.01
No. of units: 1
Total: 6.01

400060
Premium Racing Hose. THE BEST! Use Swivel Seal or Auto-Fit Hose Ends
Unit price: 6.85
No. of units: 6
Total: 41.10


Item total: 140.74

above items are for the hose & fittings from www.anplumbing.com 310-542-0856


Below is the description of parts & the link to original post (also located in the FAQ):

Oil tank: 16mm female adapter to 6 AN male, and a 45 degree hose end.

Left cooler: 16mm female adapter to 6 AN male, and a 90 degree low profile hose end.

Right cooler: 14mm female adapter to 6 AN male, and a 120 degree hose end.

Crankcase hose: 18mm male adapter to 8 AN male, an 8-6 AN reducer, and a straight hose end.

6’ of 6 AN hose.

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Here's the OEM part #s for the oil cooler, rubber bushings w/ inserts

Item Description: COOLER OIL
Item Number:      15600-KCY-671
Quantity Ordered: 1
Price Each:       $108.98

Item Description: RUBBER OIL COOLER
Item Number:      34931-KT1-670
Quantity Ordered: 2
Price Each:       $2.28

Item Description: COLLAR (6.3X13)
Item Number:      50324-425-010
Quantity Ordered: 2
Price Each:       $3.90

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  • cbreakin

Posted 09 September 2008 - 02:50 PM

#2

Thanks, this list is super helpful!  Thanks again for an A+ post that should be stickied!

  • Rockjockey

Posted 09 September 2008 - 03:41 PM

#3

9919EFK  (18mm adaptor to 8 AN male) is on indefinate backorder from anplumbing. I just completed this modification last Friday. The part can be had from Summit Racing.
I used a piece of 3/16 aluminum shaped to fit the head tube and riveted it to the head tube in the center (top and bottom) then mounted the XR4 oil cooler to it. Dropped my operating from 225 to just under 180 and added 2/3 quart of oil capacity.

  • clintp

Posted 09 September 2008 - 04:16 PM

#4

I'd be happy to hit 225F!  Was it a straight forward installation?  any problem with leaks?  I noticed helrich said he used teflon thread sealant - did you have to use anything like this or issues with leaks?

My L has had issues with overheating since I got it - no performance issues just on the thermometer, tomorrow I'll hopefully finish the high comp piston & cam (snapped a 9x110 mm head bolt); from what I've read this will increase the operating temps even more.


http://www.4strokes....?TOPIC_ID=22902

  • Rockjockey

Posted 09 September 2008 - 04:30 PM

#5

Very straight forward installation. No O-rings are provided or needed but I did use teflon tape on all of the fittings. No leaks at all. I'm vary happy with the modification. I got the XR4 cooler from sbabs here on TT when he was parting an XR4 out. Synthetic oil will help you with the heat dissipation if you did not already know. Gary Hazel of Thumper Racing turned me on to Klotz KL850 oil when he did my 440 and it works wonders for the thermally challenged motors.

  • Denn10

Posted 09 September 2008 - 05:37 PM

#6

$140 for plumbing is kinda high!! should be half that, us press on AN fittings and Aeroquip hose is all you need, strong enough to keep Predator UAVs that cost many millions of dollars in the air for the us military

  • clintp

Posted 09 September 2008 - 06:10 PM

#7

My parts already shipped so I'm stuck but if you have another supplier or more info post it!  I thought the $$ was high, but the tubing is rated to over 500F, SS braided, etc.  This will add more weight to the bike though, are the other options lighter & durable enough?

btw, thanks for the oil suggestion Rockjockey - I'll give it a shot.

  • sbabs

Posted 09 September 2008 - 06:14 PM

#8

Rockjockey said:

9919EFK  (18mm adaptor to 8 AN male) is on indefinate backorder from anplumbing. I just completed this modification last Friday. The part can be had from Summit Racing.
I used a piece of 3/16 aluminum shaped to fit the head tube and riveted it to the head tube in the center (top and bottom) then mounted the XR4 oil cooler to it. Dropped my operating from 225 to just under 180 and added 2/3 quart of oil capacity.

Any pics Mike. I am thinking of doing this to my 650 too. I get hot, but now since I mounted my damper I can't use a temp dipstick. ticks me off cause it's like brand new and useless to me. I would rather have the damper though. Love it!

I would love to know where to order all the lines, I will use the above list. If you or anyone knows please let me know.

  • XR250rdr

Posted 09 September 2008 - 06:37 PM

#9

I put the same cooler on my 250.

For those same parts Summit is a fair bit cheaper.

  • martinfan30

Posted 09 September 2008 - 07:31 PM

#10

Nice Clint! I will save this and add it later to the FAQ for a nice, complete parts list.

  • Denn10

Posted 10 September 2008 - 08:57 AM

#11

clintp said:

My parts already shipped so I'm stuck but if you have another supplier or more info post it!  I thought the $$ was high, but the tubing is rated to over 500F, SS braided, etc.  This will add more weight to the bike though, are the other options lighter & durable enough?

The weight is very minimal, im not trying to knock what you posted, you did a great write up and im sure it will help some in the future :thumbsup: Just throwing in my ideas as i had posted back a while. Heres the link..... http://www.thumperta...ip, an fittings

Summit and Jegs sell all these fittings and hose, there are two styles, the press on and the SS line that fits in the fitting with a 3 part fitting. The ones i have the most experience with is the regular barbed press on style. As you see in that link to past post i was an engine builder for the company that makes the Predator UAVs and made and testes SO MANY hoses that its not even funny, we had a $5k machine to do leak down tests and all kinds of stuff. We found very few problems with the fittings, of course in manufacturing there are some flaws that slip thru QC process' and get out but id say about 97/98% of the stuff we got worked without any leaks. We used this same line and fitting combos from -4 up to -12 and on oil and fuel lines. Thus i can say without a doubt the barbed press on lines flat out work and last!! have a set i made for my truck oil cooler and filter relocation that have been on the truck for about 4/5 years now.

these are the kind that work with the braided stainless steel line, they are a 3 piece design and can be a little PITA to put together but it can be done with no problems. Theres an aluminum collar that you put on the line under the ss cover and bolt together the fitting for a sinch tight fit

fittings ..... http://store.summitr...15&autoview=sku

used with this kind of line.... http://store.summitr...15&autoview=sku

You can use the barbed fitting style line and still put a coating over in to protect, i uses SS hose like the kinds you see for dress up on auto engines, they also used smaller stuff to make ground straps and such. It looks like this and im sure you can get one size just havent searched where. It will add protection and looks but the blue hose is also very tough, just cant have it rubbing  on stuff.
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i need to get off my but and add my cooler, i kinda swiped a few $$$$ dollars worth of AN fittings when i left working there  LOL prolly 3/4 hundo worth  LOL so i have a cooler and everything to plumb just havent done it.

  • Kenzo

Posted 10 September 2008 - 09:18 AM

#12

dennis,

on those fittings u linked...u just press on the line and then just tighten down the fitting over the top of the hose???

also from my wannbe cage racing dayz it wus not reccomended to go with braided SS sheathing(brakelines) unless it wus sealed with a plastic cover...the reasons sited were the SS sheathing cud abbraid the line underneath if not tight fitting and also sand/grit/road grime can get underneath and cause abbrasion...wuts ur thought on that???:thumbsup:

TIA,

kenny

  • Denn10

Posted 10 September 2008 - 01:43 PM

#13

on the ones that you have the nut on you unscrew the nut, inside that is a small aluminum collar. Slide the nut down the tubing and You take the tool they have to spread the SS outter part away from the inner tube, its a clear kinda plastic tubing, kinda like the lines they use on air bag systems. Then you have to put that aluminum collar over the inner plastic tubing, it usually requires lube, with the collar on you then take the AN fitting and it fits inside the aluminum collar and the tube, slide the nut up and start tightening down the nut on the AN fitting. It all tightens up the fitting. I dont recomend those just for the fact that they cost more, there more work to assemble, and the barb fittings work great for fuel or oil, and weve had PSI near 100 and the barbed lines hold, we actually pressure tested for 5mins with like 150psi on -6 lines. The fuel lines were like around 50ish psi.

I used the SS cover shielding on the lines on my truck and i havent had any problems, its my play truck and has seen quite a bit of desert and with all the dust,sand and crud around here they havent failed in the 4/5 years yet. That blue aeroquip line is pretty darn think and tough so I would say without the SS shielding unless you find areas that may have wear from contact on engine case or something. but mostly its for looks! if you dont mind the blue aeroquip line then dont worry, just route it in a smart way and secure the lines well.

I think ill have to start the mod this weekend and get the oil cooler plummed up and take some pics, i have all the fittings and hose just have to mount the cooler around headset. Guess ill just weld some nuts to mount it to.

  • Rockjockey

Posted 10 September 2008 - 03:34 PM

#14

sbabs said:

Any pics Mike. I am thinking of doing this to my 650 too. I get hot, but now since I mounted my damper I can't use a temp dipstick. ticks me off cause it's like brand new and useless to me. I would rather have the damper though. Love it!

I would love to know where to order all the lines, I will use the above list. If you or anyone knows please let me know.


Steven, all you need can be had at:  www.anplumbing.com
with the exception of that one fitting and it was $26.75 shipped to me from Summitt. Here are a few pictures of it installed.

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  • Denn10

Posted 10 September 2008 - 06:45 PM

#15

yep those are the same style fittings and tube like you asked kenzo

  • Kenzo

Posted 10 September 2008 - 07:22 PM

#16

Denn10 said:

yep those are the same style fittings and tube like you asked kenzo

yeah but i wus planning on connecting to the hardline where it connects to the frame/tank...i'll have to look at it again but i didn't see a need to run a line all the way down to the low pressure outlet of the oil pump :worthy:

if ur gunna use the steering stem cooler/mount i wud think hardlines is the bulletproof way to install it...

i'm not gunna make any changes until my temp gauge tells me i need to...which will probably only happen with cam & high comp piston :thumbsup:

:busted:

  • Denn10

Posted 10 September 2008 - 09:14 PM

#17

Right on


ROCKJ  how you like those tires? those are 908s right??

  • Rockjockey

Posted 11 September 2008 - 03:22 AM

#18

Avon Distanzias, and I love the grip provided. It will be interesting to see how long they last.

  • Norge

Posted 11 September 2008 - 03:55 PM

#19

I still don't understand how you mounted this RJ without any welding.  You made some sort of brace and riveted the cooler to it?
Also, it may cost some stainless steel tubing re-do's, but I would rather hard tube this oil cooler versus flexible braided hose.  I have some experience running stainless tubing in the natural gas industry (thats right Denny..I pass gas for a living).  If I can make the tubing right, I could make more for other pig owners.

  • Denn10

Posted 11 September 2008 - 08:17 PM

#20

that looks like the mount that they had for sale that you have to drill and tap 2 holes right in the front of the headset, then mount bracket and the cooler mounts to that.

Hard mount or not im sure they both work just as well as another, just personal preferance.




 
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