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[LLpeteJ TT Platinum Member]

i have never run slime before and was wondering if you can air down a tire with slime in it or will your schrader valve clog with slime when you go to let the air?  

glad that 19 worked out good for ya math

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LLpeteJ said:

.....or will your schrader valve clog with slime when you go to let the air?  

Nope!

[Bryce418 TT Gold Member]

Jaynen said:

And Tubliss if you get a flat it goes flat immediately which would be very dangerous for the high speed road riding I do when commuting, dual sport etc.

it would go flat but at least stay on the bead. I would much prefer that to a tube going flat and having the bead pop off, tires get squirlly when flat and damn near out of control when the bead pops off.

Bryce

[seshboy TT Newbie]

It reminds me a little of the Stan's Notubes conversion that I use on my mountain bike

http://www.notubes.c...vie_newdemo.php

[xxxbranham TT Bronze Member]

These things were supposed to be out a year ago - why is it taking so long???

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xxxbranham said:

These things were supposed to be out a year ago - why is it taking so long???

    ... they are out, not sure what your missing?

Did you call them to see if you can order what you need??

... I've got a 19", 18" and 21".   Not sure what your talking about when it comes to "taking so long". Did you place an order that didn't get handled??

[xxxbranham TT Bronze Member]

I tried ordering a 18 and 21 a year ago and they are just now coming out thru a few sources.   Just wondering why the delay?

[armourbl TT Addict]

I've got a set on order for my MX bike, if I end up liking them, I'm putting them on my desert bike too.

I rarely get a flat on my desert bike, but I run Maxxis tires and heavy duty tubes, never below 12 psi on the rear or below 10 psi on the front. I figure a tire plug kit will be good insurance, don't want messy slime. Plugging a tire is a lot easier than changing a tube on the trail. Plus, the idea of being able to ride out on a flat is awesome, assuming you can plug the hole.

Oh yeah, only major turn off for me is that I normally take my used tires off my track bike and put them on my desert bike. Rather than buying new sets for both bikes. Get more tire for my money this way. I hope I can manage to use used tires somehow with the Tubliss.

ben

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armourbl said:

I've got a set on order for my MX bike, if I end up liking them, I'm putting them on my desert bike too.

I rarely get a flat on my desert bike, but I run Maxxis tires and heavy duty tubes, never below 12 psi on the rear or below 10 psi on the front. I figure a tire plug kit will be good insurance, don't want messy slime. Plugging a tire is a lot easier than changing a tube on the trail. Plus, the idea of being able to ride out on a flat is awesome, assuming you can plug the hole.

Oh yeah, only major turn off for me is that I normally take my used tires off my track bike and put them on my desert bike. Rather than buying new sets for both bikes. Get more tire for my money this way. I hope I can manage to use used tires somehow with the Tubliss.
ben

You'll like them I think... and good idea there. Almsot makes me wanna buy a 'track' bike just to break in my tires!!

[Wiz636 TT Addict]

I got my 18" a little while ago but I have not installed it yet as I have three pretty good dents in my rim already...has anybody had issues with a dented rim not allowing the tire to seal?

[armourbl TT Addict]

Got the one for the rear tire. Put it on with a Maxxis SI that had one ride on it. It is leaking air slowly. About 3 pounds in a 24 hour period. But, when installing I also forgot the step where you spray the liner with silicone. So, maybe that is why it is leaking, not really because of the used tire.

Still haven't riddent with it yet.

ben

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Wiz636 said:

I got my 18" a little while ago but I have not installed it yet as I have three pretty good dents in my rim already...has anybody had issues with a dented rim not allowing the tire to seal?

Dented, and square my rim is... and no, no problems. AS LONG as you keep the inner core up to recommended pressure. If you let it fall below, then it'll allow the tire to leak via the spokes.

Obviously if your dent is so severe you can see most of your tire's mating point to rim area... then you'll have a problem.

armourbl said:

Got the one for the rear tire. Put it on with a Maxxis SI that had one ride on it. It is leaking air slowly. About 3 pounds in a 24 hour period. But, when installing I also forgot the step where you spray the liner with silicone. So, maybe that is why it is leaking, not really because of the used tire.

Still haven't riddent with it yet.

ben

3 pounds on the inner core? or the tire itself??

I've used a 'used' tire and had no issues. None.  But you do have to install the tire as recommended. Cutting corners (not drilling the hole as recommended...etc) is something I've seen guys do with ill results.  For example, not torquing the bead lock down to recommended spec. A huge no-no!!

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johnnyairtime said:

3 pounds on the inner core? or the tire itself??

I've used a 'used' tire and had no issues. None.  But you do have to install the tire as recommended. Cutting corners (not drilling the hole as recommended...etc) is something I've seen guys do with ill results.  For example, not torquing the bead lock down to recommended spec. A huge no-no!!

No, in the tire itself. I didn't cut any corners, just forgot the step of spraying the inner tube liner with silicone. I'm going to break the bead on it on Friday and get some silicone in there.

Even still, I've lost that much air or even more over a course of a week, in between rides with a normal tube.

ben

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armourbl said:

No, in the tire itself. I didn't cut any corners, just forgot the step of spraying the inner tube liner with silicone. I'm going to break the bead on it on Friday and get some silicone in there.

Even still, I've lost that much air or even more over a course of a week, in between rides with a normal tube.

ben

Cool... just make sure to keep that inner core up at the 110psi mark. If not, you'll lose tire air...  and quite quick (depending on rim/tire combo).

In other posts (and on another website), there's a couple guys who complain about the inner core losing pressure. But, they didn't apparently realize that when you press the valve stem with the gauge, you'll lose some air. ...and that loss is more than likely what they are reading.  I had to laugh... a couple times... okay, still laughing actually.

[MathProf TT Silver Member]

I try not to use any chemicals that might weaken the rubber.

I have tried liquid dish soap to keep the orange tube lubed against the tire bead. Seals right up.

Also don't sweat using lots of soapy water to mount and seal the tires. The tires will never slip.

I wondered about switching between race and practice tires. The tires seal so easy, it would be nice to re-use tires and save good ones for races.

[kinada423 TT Bronze Member]

How has the longevity been with these units? I change my tube every tire change and was curious if these would last long enough to justify the cost.

[beezer TT Addict]

Certain kinds of dishwashing detergent will attack the aluminum of the rim.

I use WD-40.

I'm going to try the Neutechs.

If desert guys don't have a problem with them no one will.

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kinada423 said:

How has the longevity been with these units? I change my tube every tire change and was curious if these would last long enough to justify the cost.

Read some of the reviews here on TT... search on "Tubliss" or "Nuetech".
I've stated that I've used mine (rear 18") for 2+ tires which would be equal to about 1500 miles with no issues. From technical trail riding, to rocks, to fast long straights...  never a problem, and pressures as low as 14, 12, 8 psi.

beezer said:

Certain kinds of dishwashing detergent will attack the aluminum of the rim.

I use WD-40.

I'm going to try the Neutechs.

If desert guys don't have a problem with them no one will.

... easy on the WD-40.

Ever put your grips on with WD (and let it dry over night)???  They'll stick like glue!  I'd assume the rubbers in the inner core and outer sheath would do similar when it dries....  and not move at all, possibly even adhering to the alum. rim.  Be careful, and ask Nuetech if thats an okay substance to use.

[MathProf TT Silver Member]

I have been racing with my front Tubliss for the entire 2008 season.

That means 8 to 10 new front tires on the same Tubliss system. No flats.

Plus I ride every weekend I'm not racing. Many miles of riding and racing with no issues.

I expect to take the Tubliss system off my 08 and put it on my next bike, in 2010.

I will never go back to regular tubes after Tubliss.

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kinada423 said:

I change my tube every tire change and was curious if these would last long enough to justify the cost.

It would seem to me that if you cared about costs, you wouldn't be wasting money by changing tubes so often. I have gone through 10 or more tires with the same tube.