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[Jaynen TT Platinum Member]

Sundog said:

And you are saying that using a standard tube/tire set-up the tire doesn't go flat immediately?

CBus660R said:

With TireBalls, you run them softer than you would a tube for all conditions so you wouldn't need to change pressure constantly for dry to wet conditions and vice versa, but that wouldn't work for a DS application where you want to switch from 25PSI for road only use to 12PSI for off-road use.  

With the Tubliss, what would cause a flat on the road that wouldn't cause a flat with a tube?  And if you did get a flat with the Tubliss, at least it would keep the bead locked in place unlike a tube where the tire could flop around.

I read on another forum that unlike a tube tire that receives a smaller puncture that the air would go out of the tire much faster than a normal tube. I don't know I was just repeating that and the fact Tubliss sells them as offroad only because they feel the product has inherently dangerous potential on the street, however some people are still running them with great success.

[CBus660R TT Addict]

Jaynen said:

I read on another forum that unlike a tube tire that receives a smaller puncture that the air would go out of the tire much faster than a normal tube. I don't know I was just repeating that and the fact Tubliss sells them as offroad only because they feel the product has inherently dangerous potential on the street, however some people are still running them with great success.

The way I see it, a hole is a hole and the air will leak out at a similar rate whether it's from the tire itself or an inner tube inside of the tire.  As to Tubliss calling it an off-road only product, that probably has more to do with DOT regulations than any inherent unsafeness.

[Jaynen TT Platinum Member]

True, they don't want to have to get sued or deal with regulations

[MathProf TT Silver Member]

Nobrakes:

I haven't had any problems with flats. I am an old trials rider so I carry plugs and co2 cartridges for the tubeless trials tires.

I expect them to work on the Tubliss setup.

Although, the plugs are getting old and brittle in my fanny pack.

[fitness2go TT Addict]

Are they ever coming out with the 18"? What's the deal?

[JPD855 TT Member]

You will be able to buy the 18" direct from the Nuetech online store Jan 5th

[fitness2go TT Addict]

I'll belive it when I see it!

[Flynall TT Gold Member]

Is that January 5th of 09, or 010, or 011. . .?

RH

[ysr50speed TT Bronze Member]

I have been waiting months for them to get them back in stock..Seems like they keep pushing the date back

[ysr50speed TT Bronze Member]

I just talked to nuetech and they said the 18inch will be ready jan 5th 2009 and the 21inch "should" be ready feb 5th. I sure hope they finally come in.

[aytheist1 TT Silver Member]

Ya. They'll be ready Jan 5...Three sets for each factory guy and we go back on the waiting list another 6 months is my guess.

[LLpeteJ TT Platinum Member]

i got my 18 in the mail today. it looks like a neat product i cant wait til spring

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LLpeteJ said:

i got my 18 in the mail today. it looks like a neat product i cant wait til spring

Thanks for letting us know  

I was curious if they were shipping.

[ysr50speed TT Bronze Member]

yup, they are shipping. I just got mine in the mail today and have a mb5 ready to go on it.  I will put it on tomorrow night and might try it out sunday.

[aytheist1 TT Silver Member]

aytheist1 said:

Ya. They'll be ready Jan 5...Three sets for each factory guy and we go back on the waiting list another 6 months is my guess.

Eat my words, Jeff called me today shipping my 18". Can't wait to lower the pressure and start denting those blue rims. I think they are ugly anyway. He said the 21" is still a month out.

[mikes300 TT Platinum Member]

aytheist1 said:

Eat my words, Jeff called me today shipping my 18". Can't wait to lower the pressure and start denting those blue rims. I think they are ugly anyway. He said the 21" is still a month out.

I run 6-9 psi and ride with no regard for the rocks here in Ca, just got back from AZ and did the same, so far in a year on the 19" rear the best I could do is one small ding, very small. great product! the inner tube at 110 psi really hold tight and helps prevent rim dings and even when the tire is totally flat the tire still works quite well, I finished off a 30 mile loop with a flat and you can still hold a near race pace.

Mike

[Bigbird TT Bronze Member]

mikes300 said:

I run 6-9 psi and ride with no regard for the rocks here in Ca, just got back from AZ and did the same, so far in a year on the 19" rear the best I could do is one small ding, very small. great product! the inner tube at 110 psi really hold tight and helps prevent rim dings and even when the tire is totally flat the tire still works quite well, I finished off a 30 mile loop with a flat and you can still hold a near race pace.

Mike

Were you in AZ with McLaughlin and Oliver?  If so, we had dinner Monday night.

[Wiz636 TT Addict]

I just got off the phone with Jeff at Nuetech.  The 18" is in stock.  I bought one and he is shipping it today.

[MathProf TT Silver Member]

I got a heads up from a fellow Thumpertalk reader and called Northern Califoirnia Yamaha, NCY, and found a 19" Tubliss for a good price.

They may have a couple more if anyone is interested.

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NMdesertRacer said:

Ok thanks! I was looking at this system for the desert. Im gonna stick with tubes. Slime has only worked for me once.

You'd love it for desert.
One reason I run one (18" rear with D739 AT tire) and have never had any issues. In fact, I've ridden a 1000 miles on one tire. When usually, that same tire would last 700 miles. Running lower pressure with the tubliss, makes for better traction AND longer tire life.  Win Win if you ask me.

CBus660R said:

With TireBalls, you run them softer than you would a tube for all conditions so you wouldn't need to change pressure constantly for dry to wet conditions and vice versa, but that wouldn't work for a DS application where you want to switch from 25PSI for road only use to 12PSI for off-road use.  

With the Tubliss, what would cause a flat on the road that wouldn't cause a flat with a tube?  And if you did get a flat with the Tubliss, at least it would keep the bead locked in place unlike a tube where the tire could flop around.

True that. If you run 25psi on the road... then you'd run 23 or less with a Tubliss.  With tire balls... you run the risk of melting them. They don't work too well at speed, and worse on asphalt/concrete where friction is astronomically worse.  Same with BibMoose...  they melt.

Running a tubliss flat is much MUCH different than a tubed tire running flat. In fact, I'd take the flat (ir-repairable type of flat) tubliss over a tubed flat any day.  For said reasons, I carry tire plugs AND patch kits.

Bigbird said:

I asked this same question of Jeff at Nuetech.  He said he uses slime in his with great results, and the plugs will work as well.

Yup... I slimed mine first go around. Amazing.
... put a nail in my tire (on purpose)... aired down the tire to 0psi, and plugged the hole. Rubber Cement dried no problem, and I was off in no time.

fitness2go said:

Are they ever coming out with the 18"? What's the deal?

It's out. Get it while you can before they run out!!

fitness2go said:

I'll belive it when I see it!

Come on over anytime. Check out my nearly square rear wheel... and see just how much abuse my tubliss system gets.  It's really amazing. I mean... I've got to forget ALL my old habits, and do things I've never thought possible.  Like... for instance, running 6psi in my rear tire.  Came to a severe rock section, and aired up to 8psi.  What a dream... in handling, and adhesion. And NO flats.

... No, I don't work there. No, I'm not sponsored by them. Yes, I too was once skeptical.