engine ice coolant??


19 replies to this topic
  • toofast2

Posted April 29, 2008 - 04:30 AM

#1

Has anyone used this in there YZ450?,it says it reduce's operating temp by 50degrees,and is required if you run Supermoto on track.THX

  • hyperlite33

Posted April 29, 2008 - 05:09 AM

#2

I don't have a 450, but my YZ426 and my banshee both have the stuff and I really like it. I notice the cooling difference a little more in my banshee because that thing is notorious for running hot.
Hope that helps! :eek:

  • mxgirl17

Posted April 29, 2008 - 05:19 AM

#3

YEah it works really good... we run it in aaallll of our bikes!!! 450, 250F, 144!!

  • grayracer513

Posted April 29, 2008 - 06:36 AM

#4

I've used it, and it does work well. By that I mean that it seems to boil over less than other coolants, but I don't have much trouble with simple EG coolants like Peak 50/50 premix, either.

I've never tested the claims of 50 degree temperature reduction, but I'd say those were either conditional or exaggerated. Engine Ice is basically just propylene glycol coolant premixed with distilled water, and the simple fact is that water with a wetting agent actually cools better than any coolant mix does. The trouble with water is the low boil point, even under pressure.

But EI is fine, there is no problem running it, except for the expense, and it does do the job.

  • WGP

Posted April 29, 2008 - 08:25 AM

#5

The Zip-Ty racing coolant is WAY better:prof:

I was boiling over with Everything else until I used it, Including Engine Ice.

http://www.ziptyraci...spx?id=MTMwNg==

  • toofast2

Posted April 29, 2008 - 09:35 AM

#6

I've used it, and it does work well. By that I mean that it seems to boil over less than other coolants, but I don't have much trouble with simple EG coolants like Peak 50/50 premix, either.

I've never tested the claims of 50 degree temperature reduction, but I'd say those were either conditional or exaggerated. Engine Ice is basically just propylene glycol coolant premixed with distilled water, and the simple fact is that water with a wetting agent actually cools better than any coolant mix does. The trouble with water is the low boil point, even under pressure.

But EI is fine, there is no problem running it, except for the expense, and it does do the job.


Thanks Gray,and others,for quick reply,the track that runs Supermoto,requires
either water only,or "Ice",no regular Anti-freeze,but it only comes in 64 oz.
container,is that enough for '06' YZ450F?....what is total coolant capacity for this bike?? THX

  • grayracer513

Posted April 29, 2008 - 12:13 PM

#7

... it only comes in 64 oz.
container,is that enough for '06' YZ450F?....what is total coolant capacity for this bike?? THX

That's almost exactly two complete fills. Capacity is listed as 1.05 quart.

  • hyperlite33

Posted April 29, 2008 - 02:53 PM

#8

Make sure you drain and flush all the old fluid out with water before you dump in the ice for the first time! :eek:

  • RCannon

Posted April 29, 2008 - 04:04 PM

#9

The Zip-Ty racing coolant is WAY better:prof:

I was boiling over with Everything else until I used it, Including Engine Ice.

[url]http://www.ziptyracing.com/products/product_detail.aspx?id=MTMwNg==[/u

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That Zip Ty stuff is the same as the Evans coolant. It is very strange. It is very thick. Something like warm jello. It gets thin as it warms up.

It does not boil out because it will handle extremely high temperatures. Not always a good thing if your looking at a radiator system boiling as a sign that it needs to cool off...This stuff with handle temps high enough to cause serious damage without boiling.

  • drumurr

Posted April 29, 2008 - 04:47 PM

#10

If i'm not mistaken I think it lacks the lubrication qualitys of other brands.

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  • Family Man

Posted April 29, 2008 - 06:41 PM

#11

I like it and use it. Engine Ice is good stuff. It does keep the bike considerabley cooler than the stock coolant.

  • Justin89

Posted April 29, 2008 - 06:51 PM

#12

I like it...i dont know about a 50 degree difference but it seems to work well. Before this I was actually running Honda brand coolent and that seemed to work well too...and is half the price but its optional i guess.

  • CRFsean

Posted April 29, 2008 - 06:59 PM

#13

I use it and it works great. never boiled over

  • hillclimbguy

Posted April 29, 2008 - 07:35 PM

#14

I've tried different types of coolant in my two stroke and four stroke. I run Engine ice in the 4 stroke and Evans in the two stroke. Had good results with both.
Never boiled the 2 stroke, but did have the 4 stroke drip a little coolant out the overflow.
The type of riding I do is tight twisty stuff at elevations of 3 to 6 thousand feet. Not much air flow over the radiators. But both bikes did do not over heat under my riding conditions. When I play on hills and hold full throttle for a period of time, the thumper did lose a little fluid. The 2 stroke did not. Though I did fear that the hoses would split on the 2 stroke.
Bottom line is that both brands are good. I never once boiled over either bike in my style of riding conditions.
I will probably run the engine ice in the two stroke just because I would rather see the coolant drip from the over flow hose than from a cooling hose, or leaky radiator.
Installing a radiator cap with more pressure also raises the boiling point, just remember that something has to take that pressure.

  • WGP

Posted April 30, 2008 - 06:18 AM

#15

That Zip Ty stuff is the same as the Evans coolant. It is very strange. It is very thick. Something like warm jello. It gets thin as it warms up.

It does not boil out because it will handle extremely high temperatures. Not always a good thing if your looking at a radiator system boiling as a sign that it needs to cool off...This stuff with handle temps high enough to cause serious damage without boiling.


The Zip-TY coolant is not thick:excuseme: It is like water consistency. I haven't used Evans coolant but I heard that Evans doesn't have freeze protection (which I need).
All I'm saying is if you keep boiling over from slow technical riding and off-road racing like I do and puke Engine Ice like I was Zip-TY coolant works.

  • clutchless

Posted April 30, 2008 - 08:55 AM

#16

i use maxima cool-aide. ride so cal. ocotillo, superstition, Glamis and tracks.

never had it boil over. then again i don't beat on the bike when i know its getting hot.

  • CaptainKnobby

Posted April 30, 2008 - 05:48 PM

#17

I have been useing engine ice for six years now and have'nt never had any boiling over issues. It has been a couple of years ago or so and I overheard some guys talking on the gate about a coolant they switched to.........I cant hardly remember the name of it but it seemed it was called water wetter,said it cooled twiced as good as the other brands and didnt leave a jell like substance in the head like some did.

  • grayracer513

Posted April 30, 2008 - 08:07 PM

#18

Water Wetter is made by Red Line, and is a surfactant additive, not a coolant. You add 3 oz per quart to whatever water or water/coolant mix you are running. Its purpose is to remove the surface tension from the water in the mix, which allows better transfer of heat from metal to water to metal again. When used with straight water, it actually cools better than any coolant made that I'm aware of as far as thermal transmission goes, but Water Wetter does not raise the boil point, so there you are, back to that again.

  • skwerlee

Posted May 01, 2008 - 07:10 AM

#19

Plus 1 for Engine Ice. It put a stop to the 426 boiling over on the trail.

  • kain522

Posted May 01, 2008 - 08:05 AM

#20

I've used Engine Ice in my 04 YZ450 for a couple years now, and it does make a difference. Can't really say that I'm on board with the 50 degree thing, but it is noticeably cooler.





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