Good Points lads, I agree many organizations only exist for the sole purpose of self perputuation, but any voice in the public forum is better than no voice at all, as much as I like my local clubs they have neither the resources or funds to enact an effective confrontation with deep pocketed eco groups, for example, I bought some pants at eddie bauer
and the dude behind the counter aks if I want to donate some $ to a eco group to save trees, hes got a bar code taped to the counter and can point the scanner at it and add it to my bill, its that easy for those large groups to get funding. I surely dont remember buying some tires at the local shop and having the guy ask me if I want to donate to the BRC or AMA or any other group, let alone seeing much in the way of information that would effect any riding areas. We are small unorganized groups that are easy to attack, especially with out any front. I am so pissed I may have to form my own group that can amass millions of dollars to protect our rights, as far as Glamis is concerned, civil disobedience is something to consider, although it only makes us look bad. Where the hell is Steve McQueen when we need him, as he could be our hi-profile spokesman.