Looking to Lighten Clutch Pull: I have done my homework, now need educated advice.


8 replies to this topic
  • ADVnaut

Posted March 10, 2008 - 02:45 PM

#1

I am riding a lot of technical single track and would like to lighten my clutch pull.
At this point the rekluse is out of the question although I appreciate its merits and will consider it someday.

I have an '06 WR450, I am considering getting a hydraulic but I am aware that the 10.5mm bore pull is not significantly lighter than stock. I have read advice that getting the honda 9.5mm bore will have positive results. I understand how, but apparently you would lose some range on the actuator end. Therefore needing more lever movement to disengage fully.

[COLOR="Blue"]Question 1: Will there be enough throw to keep from prematurely wearing out the clutch plates?[/COLOR]

[COLOR="Red"]Question 2: Would I be better off by getting the standard 10.5mm bore for the WR and putting the longer actuator bar from a WR400 on it to decrease pull load? Again, would there be enough range in the slave to disengage the clutches with the longer actuator?[/COLOR]

[COLOR="DarkOrange"]Question 3:I know MSR makes a conventional perch that is adjustable, have they improved the casting to keep it from busting all the time? And are there any others that I should consider going with? Would an adjustable perch and longer actuator be the ticket?[/COLOR]

I am going to try and get something done this week and would like to roll on it soon.

Thanks,
BC

  • dirtysouth

Posted March 10, 2008 - 03:22 PM

#2

Man those are some good questions...Rekluse should still be in the question though man...save the duckets and run what ya got till you getta automatic

  • dazzabb

Posted March 10, 2008 - 03:29 PM

#3

I ride tight singletrack regularly and had the same problem.

I can't answer your questions as such, but what I did to lighten the pull on my 05 WR 450 was to replace the lever with one made by Ballards in Australia.

http://www.ballards.cc

You don't even need to replace the perch, this lever has a different pivot ratio and fits the standard perch.

They claim 40% lighter clutch pull and I believe them, it is so much better than standard.

I also made sure my cable was very well oiled and that made a differnce too.

  • fishpost19

Posted March 10, 2008 - 05:58 PM

#4

^^^

The lever does make a difference. I had one of the cheapo stock cast aluminium Yamaha ones on my old XT, and I replaced it with a lever with a different curve. It actually was closer to the bars when it was not pulled in, so I though I wouldn't get enough pull. It is way lighter pull than the Yamaha ones. Try a few different levers before you start modding everything. You'll probably be surprised how much difference a lever's shape makes.

^^^
Ballards has some good stuff :thumbsup:

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  • ADVnaut

Posted March 10, 2008 - 06:18 PM

#5

I wouldn't mind trying Ballard's out, but I am not sure how much it would cost to get it here. At $3.50 a minute to call with no online ordering, it will get higher fast. I have heard a lot of positive stuff about the Ballard's unit. I'm hoping to get some good feedback on the hydraulic unit before I commit.

I know the new KTM's ('07^) have a Brimbo juice clutch, I haven't heard too much about them for other applications though. My buddies 300XC is like squeezing applesauce. I know the WR will not get that light, which sucks, but hopefully I can get a lot better than what I have now.

  • dirtysouth

Posted March 10, 2008 - 07:25 PM

#6

You do not have to go ballards...just look at the pivot arm on many aftermarket levers...same principle. Those ballards are just marketed to the WR,YZers...tons more out there

  • g123

Posted March 11, 2008 - 01:09 AM

#7

this thread really pisses me off

I never thought to investigate clutch lever ratios and the ballard unit seems very reasonably priced.

my left hand was getting so tired/sore from my 06 wr450's clutch I spent $1000NZ on a rekluse pro which got here last week (not yet fitted).

maybe I could have solved the problem for $70-$90 :thumbsup:

Actually its the wr's fault - no big heavy 4 stroke should be as much fun to ride in really tight woods as the wr is. Its so stable/steady in tight conditions - but oh my aching hand....

  • Racegun

Posted March 11, 2008 - 03:33 AM

#8

Somebody just did a thread on making their own light lever by drilling another cable hole just under and just overlapping (slightly to get the cable through) the existing hole , cost zero and it worked , you might have to do a search , i cant remember which forum.

  • Thermos O flask

Posted March 11, 2008 - 03:52 AM

#9

mate,the ballards lever works fine and is a lighter but much cheaper build quality, i fitted a works connection perch and lever on my wr and no more hand cramp.+ cheap in the states too.




 
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