Posted April 24, 2002 - 05:27 AM
Posted April 24, 2002 - 06:47 AM
along with all black plastics (woohoooo found emm finally),
new tires,(michelin m12's)
new o'ring chain and aluminium/steel/titanium sprocket.
ands maybe an hydraulic clutch (still undecided about that one)
Posted April 24, 2002 - 08:48 AM
Posted April 24, 2002 - 09:10 PM
GPR service is top notch and Randy stands behind his stuff.
Scotts service is bad and they are expensive.
Posted April 24, 2002 - 04:12 PM
Posted April 24, 2002 - 05:02 PM
I needed advice when I mounted the unit (I got the bolt-on variety) and the folks at Scotts were very helpful - no complaints there!
The damper totally improves the ride. It eliminates headshake and prevents your front wheel from gettting slammed in the event you hit a rock. It takes a little getting used to at first, and you need to fiddle with the adjustments to get the "feel". Once you have it fitured out, you won't ride without one.
I love the Scotts but I guess the GPR is good too!
Posted April 25, 2002 - 09:44 PM
Bought a Scotts a month and a half ago, just like everyone else, I'll never ride without one again. Someone once put it to me this way, "if it saves you from even 1 trip to the hospital, it paid for itself". I thought that was pretty sound thinking.
Ok, my $.04 on how they work. Sounds weird, but the funny thing is for the most part, you don't even realize that you have a dampener on, UNTIL you hit something!! I ride very tight, rocky, single track trails here in CO, and never have a problem with the dampener restricting my unforeseen turning. One thing that I found, is I really count on my dampener for the higher speed stuff, so I don't really crank up the slow speed dampening much. It's just what works for me.
Hope you find the will to save up for one, it's going to be the best upgrade you've done to date !!
Posted April 26, 2002 - 03:06 AM
With my Scotts the, bars still move but they dont get wrenched about. I am far more confident of not ending up on the floor.
As for high speed...I KNOW they saved my butt from at least 2 trips to the hospital.
Posted April 26, 2002 - 05:54 AM
I freaked out when I read your message - I went back through my stuff to check what I paid, and thankfully it was $599! I had forgotten that I bought other stuff at the time!
Posted April 27, 2002 - 06:38 PM
Posted April 28, 2002 - 05:33 AM
Posted April 28, 2002 - 06:43 AM
I also had a hard time paying $400 for something that did not add horspower and is the size of a can of chew. I do have to say it may not make HP but, does make me faster on the trail and track.
Posted April 28, 2002 - 07:04 PM
On several earlier posts, there were a number of riders who complained about the unit wearing out, sudden drop in performance, etc. All complained that when the unit needed service for anything, it was a $90 bill from Scotts. One guy's unit was only a couple weeks old, as I recall. Several friends have had great performance from theirs, several have experienced same as the aforementioned TTers. I've ridden a number of bikes with Scott's installed and they work great, but in the last 3 weeks, I have heard from one person about a lock-up, and experienced it second-hand 50 ft behind another.
You are probably right, there are lots of units out there, hence more horror stories even if the vast majority of units are fine. It's just that many seem to be quite impressed with GPR's quality, service, and assistance and a bit disappointed at Scott's.
No doubt I'll wind up with one or the other. I want to pull my forks up a bit further in the clamps, and don't want headshake in high-speed sandwashes. My only issue is $600 X 3= $1800! I am in the middle of a house remodel working with roughly 1/2 my normal income. I think I'll wait just a bit longer.
Posted April 29, 2002 - 11:48 AM
Posted April 29, 2002 - 12:36 PM
Scott's is actually an Ohlins - Scott's is the only distributor in the US.
I run a WER, have raced with Scotts. They are all best for high speed racing, and mostly they help fight fatigue.
If they were all the same price, I'd buy a Scotts/Ohlins.
As it is, I rarely race desert anymore, and the WER mounts down low, outta the way, so when I run a steering damper, it's a WER. BTW, I've had it rebuilt twice by WER since maybe '95.