Dampers - Summary
Posted April 13, 2002 - 03:18 AM
There are a couple of options I have come across:
- WER - front mounted - one way damping - can't adjust on the fly - $649 (web site?)
- MSC - bar mounted - adjust on the fly - damps both ways -$725 (australian) (firstname.lastname@example.org)
- GPR - bar mounted - damps one way (newer ones only) - 6 static adjustment points - price? (www.gpr-products.com/bike_kits.htm)
- Scotts / Ohlins (are they the same?) - bar mounted - 40 adjustment positions - about $700- $800?(www.scottsperformance.com/indexmain.html)
Anyone got anything to add to this?
Any experiance with damping both ways? Arm pump?
Any experiance fitting on the front (saw a picture of someones WR with a Scotts on the front somewhere on ThumperTalk)?
Posted April 13, 2002 - 11:03 AM
I don't baby my bike. Like to ride fast. My Scotts damper lets me do just that but without the pain of thumping the ground with my body. That's always a good thing.
Posted April 13, 2002 - 09:05 PM
Tried my buddies new wr and didn't like the feel of not having a stabilizer. I guess I am addicted.
Posted April 13, 2002 - 11:59 PM
I went through this whole process when I got my bike in January...
The Scotts is the same as the Ohlins...
The MSC is functionally similar to the Ohlins, and is Australian made...
Can't speak for the WER or the GPR, SOme people like them and perhaps they haven't bothered to find something better... like some people ride a XR600 and think they are great bikes... it is what you know, what you have experienced...
A good damper IS going to save your butt, low-speed ruts and rocks, or high-speed headshake...
You will have a more relaxed grip on the bike, and that in itself will diminish the arm-pump, and you will not be fighting and wrestling the bike, so that will help as well...
You will be more confident and ride faster with a damper, and one with both high and low-speed settings will be more adjustable - the scotts/Ohlins is one example of that, I think the MSC has dual circuits as well...
The problem I found with the Ohlins is that they can only supply a weld on tower, the distributor (or my dealer) couldn't get a bolt on kit... weld on is fine, but bolt-on is what I wanted
BTW, the MSC will NOT fit on the Scotts Hardware or triple clamps, I asked... and yes, Scotts are trialling a front mount for their damper, but it looks cumbersome to me... OK for a YZ, but not so easy for a WR with headlight and stuff
Posted April 14, 2002 - 02:45 AM
I understand the benefits and am finally pulling my finger out as I have a busted arm which is recovering pretty slowly.
Does the Scotts adjust both ways - ie can you go from 1 straight to 40 or do you have to go all the way through - ie 1,2,3,...39,40?
I have stock triple clamp etc. My biggest issue with the MSC is the fact that according to the maker it damps both ways (more suited to a road bike). Don't know about high and low speed.
I reckon the GPR is basically a copy of the Scotts/Ohlins but it only has 6 settings (goes straight from 1-6).
I have seen the WER on a mates CR500, seems ok but an issue on the WR with the light etc. Adjsuting is a bit fiddly.
I was up Bundy way a year or so ago, sweet area, didn't have a bike with me but had a good look around - went and visited the Bear (can't take the coutnry out of the boy). Also went to Rocky (the Great Western Hotel - Rodeo ring in the beer garden - cool). Bet the riding is cool.
Posted April 15, 2002 - 05:11 AM
Posted April 16, 2002 - 08:51 AM
Primary factors in considering purchase:
1) Great people to deal with
2) Price more affordable than Scotts
3) Lifetime warranty and free upgrade/rebuild policy, i.e. if something breaks or it needs a rebuild GPR will do it for free. It's been rumored Scotts charges for these things but I can't verify.
4) They'll do a one off build of the mounting brackets if you send them your triple clamp if it isn't something they stock.
Would buy another one from GPR www.gpr-products.com, based on customer service alone, eveerything else is upside.