Someone stop me, quick!!!!!!!

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  • sploogemonkey

Posted January 25, 2008 - 11:08 PM


I thought about mentioning the idle as well but I'm always afraid of insulting someones intelligence.:busted:

Man, insulting my intelligence is old news, don't even worry about it! I ain't ashamed to admit that I'll take all the help I can get! :applause:

Today was another busy day that I couldn't find time to mess with the bike. I'll try the idle adjustment thing tomorrow and see how it goes.

Thanks for the tips. :cool:

  • Doofus007

Posted January 25, 2008 - 11:19 PM


+1 on the idle being too low. The same thing happened to me recently, had my suspension revalved and during the takedown I guess I loosened the idle screw. Prior to removing the suspension my bike (96' XR600 68 pilot,158 main) would start 1st or 2nd kick. When I out it all back and tried to start it wouldn't go. I knew I hadn't done any motor mods so I was scratching my head(after several vulgar outbursts) and recalled the idle screw. Show nuff', it kicked right over when I idled up. Try it.

  • weskc35k

Posted January 26, 2008 - 05:03 AM


Do it pop on decel,68 pilot would be a bit small i'd think unless your at elevation.
Oh and the idle thing as well.

  • scalejockey

Posted January 26, 2008 - 07:41 AM


I had one do this years ago.Try a leaner float level, the float might be sinking a little.

  • onebigmike

Posted January 26, 2008 - 04:03 PM


I'll give ya a hundred for it if you are that pissed at it.(before you shoot it)

I'll give ya a hundred and fiftey. Definatly BEFORE :cool: you shoot it....

  • sploogemonkey

Posted January 28, 2008 - 04:29 AM


It's fixed! Woo-hoo! :prof: :p

And to all of you that offered advice.... :cool: :eek: :lol:

I honestly don't remember what fuel screw setting I ended up at (I'll check it later), but the idle setting apparently was the trick. :worthy:

I took kawabuggy's (and others) advice and turned the idle up about 1/2 turn, and it started on the second kick.:applause:

The exact routine was:
  • Kick 3x with decomp lever engaged (to prime cyl.).
  • Full choke
  • Release decomp lever and slowly kick until I feel compression build.
  • Engage decomp lever and kick about 10 degrees past TDC.
  • Release decomp lever and bring kick lever to top.
  • Kick like ya got a pair!

Once the bike has warmed up, I just drop the idle level a little.

I did this Saturday morning before I went to the gun show and it worked. I was gone all day and repeated Sat. night and it worked again!

Sunday I went riding with my son and the same routine worked again.

That's three consecutive attempts from a dead cold engine and all three times my bike lit off within 2-3 kicks.

I admit that I don't understand why it works, though.

Doesn't a higher idle adjustment just crack the slide open a bit to let more air in? My bike isn't running rich on the slow circuit, though. I went from a 65pj to the 68pj because of some popping down low and an erratic return to idle, which I think means too lean on the slow circuit.

I don't friggen care. It works fine now and I aint gonna mess with it!

Thanks guys for all the help and letting me vent. :busted: :crazy:

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  • onebigmike

Posted January 28, 2008 - 06:43 AM


Glad to hear you got it figured out. Where did you go riding?

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  • Rman of 237

Posted January 28, 2008 - 07:59 AM


:applause: :busted: 90% of the time it's something simple. Glad you got it starting right.:cool:

  • jetfuel

Posted January 28, 2008 - 08:02 AM


Glad the world is right for you once more.. nice looking piggy..:cool:

  • martinfan30

Posted January 28, 2008 - 09:57 AM


What a releif!!

  • Denn10

Posted January 28, 2008 - 03:15 PM


What a releif!!

i know i was getting ready to throw something at the Sploog!!! LOL im sure this will be one to remember for a while. I dont remember alot about idle making it so hard to start. Good job Sploog

  • martinfan30

Posted January 28, 2008 - 03:41 PM


If the idle is too low, the throttle plate isnt letting any air in. I've done it to mine!:cool:

  • Krannie McKranface

Posted January 28, 2008 - 04:12 PM


Maybe it's your OLD starting procedure on your NEW motor that's giving you trouble.

Now that you have opened her up, you need to give her more gas.

- 5 kicks with no gas and decompression on
- Gas on, three squirts
- Raise the idle
- TDC, and kick.
- NO choke

  • sploogemonkey

Posted January 28, 2008 - 05:03 PM


i know i was getting ready to throw something at the Sploog!!! LOL im sure this will be one to remember for a while. I dont remember alot about idle making it so hard to start. Good job Sploog

I was gettin' nervous, afraid I might not get it figgered out before April, afterall, I gotta go find that Husky Memorial in the desert this spring.

You gonna make it for the weekend camp-out, Denn'? Shootin' for April or May.

  • martinfan30

Posted January 28, 2008 - 05:06 PM


SPLOOGE, take a look at the sticky I have posted...

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