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[RayIn TT Silver Member]

gmoss said:

why don't ya post up in the '200 club' thread?  That's what it's there for.  Copy and paste the jetting info, which includes you info such as elevation, temps, etc., plug in your data, making it easier for us to help ya.  A link to the thread is located in the sticky at the top of this forum, also.

We simply need more info to give you a good starting point.  I am still working on mine, and posting up my results.

Here, made it easy:

Year:
Model (E,W,XC,M, SX):
Main jet:
Pilot Jet:
Air screw (turns out):
Needle model/Clip position:
Altitude where you ride:
Temperature where you ride:
Other mods:
Degree of satisfaction:

FWIW:
More info to explicitly ask for ('cause it affects jetting and satisfaction) -
Reeds - eg boyeson rad vs. V-force, vs regular stock boyeson on older bikes
Pipe - Stock, FMF knarly ets
Head mod? - squish gap?
Type of fuel - pump or race or mix of both
Where in the powerband do you ride (Lugger - for technical stuff, or wide open - desert / MX)
And finally: how much spooge 1) none, 2) little, 3) medium, 4) lots

Carb size - implicit in the year designation?

[Dave mac TT Silver Member]

Year:2007
Model (E,W,XC,M, SX): xc
Main jet:170
Pilot Jet:40
Air screw (turns out):1
Needle model/Clip position: cck #4 winter  cck #3 summer
Altitude where you ride: 0 to 1500
Temperature where you ride: 90- 35
Other mods:v force, head mod, ported, narly pipe, flyweel weight
Degree of satisfaction: Totally love it, no hit very smooth, plug color perfect, lugs all day long

Terrain tammers from Bruce suspension, they are magic




moved handlebars forward, bike seemed a little cramped,

dave

[firebolter TT Silver Member]

2007 200XC

Now:
178 Main
JDRed clip 4
42 pilot
AS1.5
Stock Boyenson RAD valve (have a VForce and will use it when the stocks need replacing.)
Stock Pipe (Gnarly waiting for when stocker gets bashed!)

Runs great. In the 20-50's F now. When it warms up, The main will drop as will the needle.

Runs great, starts easy on those 22 degree mornings and warms up fast. Nice strong bottom with a clean progressive build to hit. Doesn't load up under long periods of slow running. Plug looks nice med-dark color, dry. Very happy with the power. In back to back rides of my friend riding mine and then a buddies 04 EXC, he loved the XC tranny and the way my power comes on. Again, the difference in pipes, ratio's and jetting can really make 2-200's seem way different bikes.

These motor's respond well to small changes for slightly different characteristics of the low to mid exchange.

I get all warm and happy just thinking about it!

[ac717 TT Gold Member]

I just got a 2008 200xc.Temp is 40F,motorex/pump premium at 32-1. Stock jetting.All I did was tall firm ee seat,15mm bar risers in forward position and set sag.It feels great,no spooge.Only thing I noticed is the rear and front are not suspended equally.I am 195lbs and the front seems fine,but the rear needs to go up in spring rate.I will be racing 200A this year,coming from a     yz250. Oh-the stock clutch is junk-oil got filthy after 30 minutes.

[gmoss357 Get Help Now]

RayIn said:

FWIW:
More info to explicitly ask for ('cause it affects jetting and satisfaction) -
Reeds - eg boyeson rad vs. V-force, vs regular stock boyeson on older bikes
Pipe - Stock, FMF knarly ets
Head mod? - squish gap?
Type of fuel - pump or race or mix of both
Where in the powerband do you ride (Lugger - for technical stuff, or wide open - desert / MX)
And finally: how much spooge 1) none, 2) little, 3) medium, 4) lots

Carb size - implicit in the year designation?

you're right Rayin, we can enter this info as we go.  Thanks.

carb size would probably be good.  I am not an expert, just trying to establish a good database, so the more info each of us provides, the better.

I am not that technical to know squish and such:busted: , but the rest I can pretty much figure out.

I will copy and paste your info into my specs soon.

[gmoss357 Get Help Now]

Good comparison of the XC vs the W.

[ac717 TT Gold Member]

Anybody notice when coming to a stop and downshifting back to first it is hard to get it back to first gear? I was in like 3rd gear a couple time today,stopped and tried to get to first and it was hard to find first gear again.

****found stick stuck at sprocket****oops

[Mike in Fresno Get Help Now]

no, never noticed that problem befire. I would say the shift mechanism under the right side case may be loose or the shift forks inside asre bent. The 3rd gear is a weak link. I had one break on the first ride on my first 200. I found others have had the same issue, but none of the other gears seem to break. It is of course an expensive gear to break since one of the two are part of a shaft.

[ulmanb TT Addict]

Year: 2006
Model (E,W,XC,M, SX): xcw
Main jet: 175
Pilot Jet: 45
SLIDE: 6.0
Air screw (turns out): 1.5
Needle model/Clip position: 3rd
Altitude where you ride: 900+/-
Temperature where you ride: 50F - 90F
Other mods: TC II spark arrestor
Degree of satisfaction:  I bought it used from a AA Enduro Rider/Harescrambler.  He had already tuned the exhaust valve which I am happy with so I havent touched it.

When going thru the carb I noticed it is all stock settings other than the slide.  The 6.0 is supposed to be richer than the stock 6.5 which may account for my main being smaller than most of the others that have posted here.  I get a little spooge, I will probably mess with the jetting some in the spring as I just picked up a JD jet kit.  Anyone have a pdf of the jetting directions from JD?  I bought mine used without directions.

Suspension: I was pretty happy with stock after changing the springs.  I had Enduro Engineering revalve the shock to soak up the rocks and roots a little better.

Replaced the hiem joint with a aftermarket heim.  Noticed the aftermarket did not have as large of rounded shoulders as the stocker.  It was much harder to install and had to freeze it overnight to get it in.  Next time I will use a F-bushing.

I also have a stock 2005 cr250 spare bike.  When ridden back to back in the woods, the KTM is the hands down favorite.  The KTM is point and shoot, requires much less body english to get it where you want it.

[gmoss357 Get Help Now]

This is not 200 specific, but it's a problem I am having right now and I think it is largely overlooked by us non experts.  lol

Setting the float level.

[Mike in Fresno Get Help Now]

what problem? Just bend the tab. Tell us more..........

[gmoss357 Get Help Now]

Mike in Fresno said:

what problem? Just bend the tab. Tell us more..........

My problem

bend it up I presume.?

FYI, I have never read about or knew anything about setting the float level.  I guess I missed that one.  lol  I am fairly familiar with the function of the needles and jets, but this is new to me.  Hopefully the link will help someone down the road.

[not2fastorfurious TT Member]

Hi guys, dunno if you can really help me but i weigh about 10 stone, just wondering how many clicks i should have on the rear shock. On my shock there are about 14 positions. 14 is the softest and 1 is the hardest. I have it on about 9 at the moment. Does that sound about right guys?

[dirt_rider93561 TT Silver Member]

Right now my carb leaks gas when it is on the side stand.  So I might have to go through the carb and adjust the float level.  While I am in there I will get the jet sizes and let you guys know.

As far as suspension adjusting, I don't know what it should be set for your weight, but with mine I just adjusted it till it felt good and wasn't as harsh as it was to begin with.  When I find time later on I will most likely get it setup right and be done with it.

[Mike in Fresno Get Help Now]

what does a stone weigh?

[Veccster TT Addict]

Mike in Fresno said:

what does a stone weigh?

1 stone = 14 pounds

10 stone = 140 pounds

[Mike in Fresno Get Help Now]

not2, it sounds as tho you will need lighter sprigs to make the suspension work the best. Til then go with the lightest for compression and a little extra past center for rebound. The extra rebound may help it not push back on your tiny butt so quickly.

[not2fastorfurious TT Member]

Cheers guys, im only fifteen so dont weigh much yet! Thanks again!

[zerovet TT Newbie]

the 07's have the same crappy suspension the improvements were made only to the 07 sx models. now all the 08 have the 07sx suspension. the deflecting was impart due to the fact of the swing arm twist, no linkage and little progressiveness in the rear. there ar estill many upgrades for your ktm. Visit this site, this guy is a master on the ktm suspesion. www.3xperformance3.com. he is a two time setra champ on ktm.

[JESSJAM43 TT Newbie]

Year:2001
Model MXC 200
Main jet:185
Pilot Jet:45
Air screw (turns out):1.5
Needle model/Clip position: DDK SUDCO / 3RD
Altitude where you ride:400 FT
Temperature where you ride: 60-70
Other mods:ALL STOCK W/ NEW MOOSE FILTER
Degree of satisfaction: 100 PERCENT SATISFIED, NO SPOOGE WHILE RIDING MX, VERY LITTLE SPOOGE WHILE TRAIL RIDING, PULLS CLEAN & HOLDS NICE SMOOTH THROTTLE WHILE AT STEADY SPEED

Reeds - BOYSEN CARBON REPLACEMENTS
Pipe - Stock
Head mod? - squish gap? STOCK
Type of fuel - PUMP 91  40.1 SUPER M
Where in the powerband do you ride (Lugger - for technical stuff, or wide open - desert / MX) "EVERYWHERE"
And finally: how much spooge "VERY LITTLE"

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