I know, I know, but for 800.00 it was worth a chance. It is a 200cc electric and kick start. My question is, does anyone have any watch outs on these bikes, or any info they would like to share.
Thanks

yes.... everything.

hondarocks61 said:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

If you're just looking to throw away 800.00, throw it this way.



Seriously, you'd be better off getting another couple hundred bucks together and buying used.


To directly answer your question though... No, I have no experiance or knowledge about that specific brand.

ORrooster said:

:applause:

There could be many others out there just like that one, but the importer of yours decided to call it what they did. Usually the batteries are totally junk. A friend of mine was selling Vivas for awhile.

ORrooster said:

Good advice on he used bike thing but from the wording in the post it looks like you are too late he already pulled the trigger:cry:

ripman36 said:

Yep, too late. :thumbsdn:

Let us know how it turns out for you. Good luck.

ripman36 said:

no, actually, it wasn't worth a chance. That could have been money spent towards suspension work on a real bike, plus some other stuff. Now china is $800 richer. Super.

Be careful on the bike, key areas to watch for breaking are the footpegs, rims, frame, engine, tires, spokes, brakes, plastic, hubs, swingarm, "suspension", and seat.

hey, just save 700 more dollars and but a littler bike:thumbsup:
nate

Honda125 358 said:

Uhm, I think my last post got deleted... I'll clean it up a little.


:thumbsdn: :censored: China :foul: :rant:



I think you covered about everything, I'd keep an eye on the cheap control levers, handlebars, and electrical system (have heard a lot of bad stuff about the electrical, from typical component failure to total meltdown).




Hope that passes review.

Well thanks all. I was looking for some helpful comments not a bunch of no it all's with actually no experience with this kinda bike. Obviously I know it was a risk. I don't hear of anybody riding an American made dirt bike. None the less I will keep you updated and as things go wrong and I imagine they will. What happen to people who enjoy hearing from others who have the same interest. I will let you know so we have some real information to share with others.

ripman36 said:

The reason you got the responses you did is because this type of bike is being sold under dozens of names and their reliability and quality are well known. There are really only 3-4 manufacturers of the China bikes, the differences are in who imports them and what color plastics and graphics that they put on them. Now we all know that there are no American manufacturers of mainstream dirtbikes, but there are several quality Japanese and European brands and the price of those bikes reflect the quality difference. The anti-China comments come from the fact that there are people who are tired of Communist China making a quick buck off of American consumers who's only requirement is "what's cheapest". Not saying you fall into that category, but it is what keeps Wal-Mart profitable and dirtbikers don't like the fact that this thought process is now starting to get a foot hold with dirtbikes.

Understandable. What I would appreciate is some good information. I am aware of the need for the U.S. to regulate what comes into the states, I agree. We all get caught up in trying to get a deal, and we end up getting what we pay for. Unfortunately is we don't really know what we are buying. Things are pieced together from all over the world and shipped to the states. That all said if you hear of any factual watch outs please let me know and I will do the same.

ripman36 said:

The only thing I can say for sure is that replacement parts can be really hard to come by. Most dealers of these bikes are not full service. They simply sell the bike and do not carry parts or even offer to order parts or help with servicing the bike, just like buying an appliance from Wal-Mart.

Dude, I don' tthink they were totally ragging on you about your choice of this bike. They were just sayin gthat it is not worth all of the time, effort, and wasted money that it's gonna cost to keep this bike running. I myself would either rather save a few more hundred dollars and get a good bike or get a older used bike from somewhere (newspaper, cycletrader, etc.). I had a friend in my neighboirhood buy one of those type of bikes. Like someone already said earlier everything breaks. The handlebars bent, the chain broke, one footpeg cracked, the shock broke, the throttle broke, the brakes sucked, the engine sounded like crap from day one, the engine ran like crapafter about a month, the clutch screwed up, the plastic is very cheap (so if you lay it down, you will have broken plastic), the rims will bend on the mildest jumps (or g-outs), and the frame cracked. The bike spent more time not running, sitting in the garage, and looking crappy than it did giving him pleasure.

Dude, again people aren't ragging on you. They just know that this is gonna happen with these bikes. I have seen it personally. It's like you want everyone to tell you that this is a smart purchase, and it just isn't. It sounds like you have your mind made up about purchasing it anyways. Trust me this will not be one of those magical bikes that have redefined the production market.

I had a ricardo 110. It was decent and I felt like I got my money's worth. Although, i had to give it away after the rear brake master res. fitting cracked. The dealers were a joke. They would never have any spare parts, and would never return phone calls. Well, needless to say they are out of business now haha!. The dealer I bought it from couldn't get a replacement for the master. Heck, they didn't even have a replacement clutch cable!

If the dealers had spare parts, then these bikes wouldn't be too bad to just fool around on.

When they say they don't have parts, they don't have parts. If my friend needed a warranty part, the importer had to take it off a new bike or whatever they had. Even worse Viva's sales brochures showed kids on ATVs without helmets, unbelievable.

i had one of those 125cc 4 stroke pitbikes and it was just a big problem, every week after about a month from brand new something different broke then one day i thought here f**k it and i rode it into the ground(not long after i bought my kx80) and after i found the head and piston (top end) was fine(they were used for a blew up pitbike with gearbox mods) but the gearbox was smashed to pieces litteraly i took the casing off and the gearbox fell out in bits lol

Those Chinese bikes are complete crap. My friend got a Hymoto 125 pitbike two years ago for $500. Within 2 months, we twisted the frame, broke the frame, broke off a footpeg, broke the gas cap, broke the rear spokes and bent the front rim, blew the front forks, and the engine smokes like crazy. It was somewhat good for screwing around, but all of the problems offset the amount of fun it was.