Will XR600 engine fit XR400 chassis?


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  • mikesbaron

Posted January 07, 2008 - 03:19 PM

#1

Considering the 600 swap to the XR chassis for the better bodywork look (seat/rear fender) , height and front suspension (Yeah, yeah I know it's not much but btter than the XR600 front end).

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  • martinfan30

Posted January 07, 2008 - 03:49 PM

#2

possibly, i would go down to a honda shop and measure between a 650L and a 400.

  • jclaus98

Posted January 07, 2008 - 04:35 PM

#3

It looks like the cases are different buddy, but anything is possible I guess.

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  • Horri

Posted January 07, 2008 - 05:29 PM

#4

Don't know about that one.What I can tell you is that an XL600..83 up motor will fit in and XR500-RE frame.I'm doing one at present.It's tight and needs a bit of manipulating but it goes in using the stock mounts..I'm rapt to discover that as it saves me trying to find an RE motor.

  • scalejockey

Posted January 07, 2008 - 07:46 PM

#5

ummm, at first i'd vote no but i'm not sure the distance of the swing arm pivot and front motor mount. And front mount to the top frame mount.


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  • mikesbaron

Posted January 07, 2008 - 09:38 PM

#6

I was tol on ADvrider that it won't fit because the 400 pivots with the frame/swingarm and the XR600 doesn't. I want the 400 chassis but need the cruising power and reliability of the XR400.

I wonder about stroking the 400, how much cc would that get?

  • Krannie McKranface

Posted January 07, 2008 - 09:43 PM

#7

I was tol on ADvrider that it won't fit because the 400 pivots with the frame/swingarm and the XR600 doesn't. I want the 400 chassis but need the cruising power and reliability of the XR400.

I wonder about stroking the 400, how much cc would that get?


Boy, it seems like you are going to a lot of trouble, to re-invent the wheel. If you want reliability, stroking a XR400 is not really going to get you that.

  • Maroast

Posted January 07, 2008 - 09:44 PM

#8

I was tol on ADvrider that it won't fit because the 400 pivots with the frame/swingarm and the XR600 doesn't. I want the 400 chassis but need the cruising power and reliability of the XR400.

I wonder about stroking the 400, how much cc would that get?


There should be a wealth of information on this topic over in the xr400 forum...the only help that can be provided here is: Buy an XR650R!!! :banghead:

  • BWB63

Posted January 07, 2008 - 10:32 PM

#9

From the point of the suspension.....The XR400 sucks! Wait did I say sucks? I ment really sucks! I do suspensions mainly for XR's and there is not much to work with on the XR400's forks. If you at least went with XR650R forks you would have something. The kick starter working on the XR600R motor in the XR400R frame should be an issue if it does fit, after you cut and weld the fram to fit the bigger engine. I have two soon to be three XR400's and have had many XR6's. the XR6 engine case is longer, there is no room for the bigger engine but, you might be able to make room and not change the rake?

  • Denn10

Posted January 07, 2008 - 10:33 PM

#10

prolly not even worth it but it CAN be done just will take alot and i wouldnt do it myself.

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  • SniperTeamBravo

Posted January 08, 2008 - 09:24 AM

#11

You can make your XR600R look exactly or better than a XR400R for the price of an A-Loop kit....then you don;t need to buy an XR400 chassis or swap anything but the tank seat and fenders and crap....

  • mikesbaron

Posted January 08, 2008 - 10:45 AM

#12

Yeah I don't lik ehow the XR600 seat doesn't flow at all into the rear of the fender. If somoene had a fix for that I might be happy with the XR6.

  • Kyron

Posted January 08, 2008 - 11:38 AM

#13

Yeah I don't lik ehow the XR600 seat doesn't flow at all into the rear of the fender. If somoene had a fix for that I might be happy with the XR6.



thats an easy fix ........ ride it!! The seat/fender area looks better with a rider on it :banghead:

  • SniperTeamBravo

Posted January 08, 2008 - 12:24 PM

#14

Yeah I don't lik ehow the XR600 seat doesn't flow at all into the rear of the fender. If somoene had a fix for that I might be happy with the XR6.


The someone of whom you speak is A-Loop check out their website.

  • martinfan30

Posted January 08, 2008 - 12:29 PM

#15

http://www.aloop.com/index.html

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  • mikesbaron

Posted January 08, 2008 - 12:48 PM

#16

Yep you're right, def better looking!
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  • Dwight_Rudder

Posted July 11, 2010 - 10:33 PM

#17

I think the idea of a XR600R engine in a XR400R frame is a great idea. The XR400 frame is a bit more rigid and may be just a tad lighter. I wish Honda had just done more R&D with the older XR600R engine and frame rather than the larger / heavier and more unreliable XR650. At least for us woods riders. I know the XR600R engine only puts out about 40hp but it is never below 22hp at anytime and is super reliable and easy to handle. I never had anybike out run my XR600r down a straight. Maybe stay with it but never out run it. You can't put more than 40hp down on the ground in the dirt anyway. More power just means more top speed and the XR600 already will do 95-100mph anyway.
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  • valvesrule

Posted July 11, 2010 - 10:37 PM

#18

Guts racing has tall foam and covers that will reshape the seat quite a bit. Try a Maier MX fender with the seat too. I have both combined with a different headlight on my 86 XR250 and they really make for a different look. Swapping a motor so the seat looks better seems a bit extreme to me. A 600 engine is a bunch larger than a 400 and will never fit the 400 frame without numerous cuts and lengthening. The 600 fits in the 83/84 XR500 frame but it's even tight there cause the overall frame height is shorter than a 600 while the 500/600 engines are exactly the same external dimensions.

  • cyclewizard

Posted July 12, 2010 - 01:50 AM

#19

Yep you're right, def better looking!
Posted Image Not a fan of these black rims though. YUCK.


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The XR6 won't work in a XR4 chassis, "well I guess you can make anything work with enough money and time", and black rims show all the nicks and scratches, never was a fan of them either.

  • HeadTrauma

Posted July 12, 2010 - 01:35 PM

#20

Not my photos, but poignant nonetheless.

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