This morning i changed my oil filter on my 07 KX450 and the top bolt (the long one) has somehow stripped itself. The thread on the bolt looks perfect but it just slides in and out of the hole. I can see slight metal shavings on the bolt when I put it in then bring it out. What will need to be replaced? This has never happened before. Like I said the bolt and its threads look perfect.
Help with oil filter bolt!!
Started by mikeay, Oct 28 2007 08:36 AM
18 replies to this topic
Posted 28 October 2007 - 08:36 AM
This morning i changed my oil filter on my 07 KX450 and the top bolt (the long one) has somehow stripped itself. The thread on the bolt looks perfect but it just slides in and out of the hole. I can see slight metal shavings on the bolt when I put it in then bring it out. What will need to be replaced? This has never happened before. Like I said the bolt and its threads look perfect.
Posted 28 October 2007 - 08:53 AM
You'll need a Helicoil. Take the bolt to an autoparts store and they should be able to fix you up. :thumbsup:
When you put it in, pay particular attention to puting it in straight and also to keeping metal shavings out of your cases.
When you put it in, pay particular attention to puting it in straight and also to keeping metal shavings out of your cases.
Posted 29 October 2007 - 11:26 AM
Kevin,
i bought a helicoil kit for the bolt. Should i just use the inserts or should I do the entire process of drilling the hole and creating new threads with everything that came in the kit? Thanks for your help
i bought a helicoil kit for the bolt. Should i just use the inserts or should I do the entire process of drilling the hole and creating new threads with everything that came in the kit? Thanks for your help
Posted 29 October 2007 - 11:50 AM
I would suggest using a smaller bolt with a helicoil that will slide into the existing whole. It will look funny but you will avoid drilling into your case.
Posted 29 October 2007 - 08:01 PM
i just put a longer bolt into it when mine stripped out and it worked fine, i would try that before you spend the money on the heli coil kit
Posted 31 October 2007 - 02:56 AM
Kr8r said:
i just put a longer bolt into it when mine stripped out and it worked fine, i would try that before you spend the money on the heli coil kit
Clean the theads out with a q-tip and put a 5mm longer bolt in. The hole is threaded about 9 mm deeper!
Posted 31 October 2007 - 03:36 AM
We have that problem come into the shop all the time. We have always used the Timesert. You do drill, and use a countersink tool, but you can use the same bolt. When your done it will be stronger and will last longer also.
Check them out at Timesert.com
Check them out at Timesert.com
Posted 31 October 2007 - 09:20 AM
Thanks guys for the advice. The stock bolt is a metric 6mm x 1.0 x 75mm. I checked all of the local auto parts stores and they did not have a 6 x 1.0 x 80mm bolt in stock. I had to order one from boltdepot.com. Hopefully it works. The guys at the cycle shop said it will.
Posted 31 October 2007 - 10:14 AM
j-man said:
We have that problem come into the shop all the time. We have always used the Timesert. You do drill, and use a countersink tool, but you can use the same bolt. When your done it willstronger and will last longer also.
Check them out at Timesert.com
Check them out at Timesert.com
j-man. I looked at their website. What do you do about the flange at the top of it? Wouldn't that keep the oil filter cover from seating properly?
Also, can you tell us what size to order and what size drill/tap to use?
Mine hasn't stripped yet but it's feeling kind of "soft" when I try to tighten it; I have a feeling it won't be long until I need to get mine fixed.
Posted 31 October 2007 - 05:15 PM
er193 said:
j-man. I looked at their website. What do you do about the flange at the top of it? Wouldn't that keep the oil filter cover from seating properly?
Also, can you tell us what size to order and what size drill/tap to use?
Also, can you tell us what size to order and what size drill/tap to use?
Each kit comes with a drill, several inserts, install tool and a counterseat tool that allows the flange part to set flush with your case. You get the kit the size of whatever bolt size. The depth of the bolts also make a difference.
Posted 31 October 2007 - 07:07 PM
j-man said:
Each kit comes with a drill, several inserts, install tool and a counterseat tool that allows the flange part to set flush with your case. You get the kit the size of whatever bolt size. The depth of the bolts also make a difference.
You said or implied that you used these to fix the problem often. If you could give us a part # for the kit it would be a great help. Mine's not stripped out yet so if I can keep from removing the bolt to measure it and just get the part ordered to fix it that would be great. I'd also like to offer the info you provide in the sticky section for future reference since it seems to be a common problem.
Posted 01 November 2007 - 03:40 AM
Here's a link to the section of the website that gives part numbers for metric bolts. It also shows a video on installing the timesert.
http://www.timesert....l/mtrcsert.html
You only measure the depth that the bolts goes into the case, not the length of the bolt. We have kits in all sizes, but the Part #1610 is for the kit that I use for the oil bolt. You can order inserts as needed, but you need the kit first.
http://www.timesert....l/mtrcsert.html
You only measure the depth that the bolts goes into the case, not the length of the bolt. We have kits in all sizes, but the Part #1610 is for the kit that I use for the oil bolt. You can order inserts as needed, but you need the kit first.
Posted 01 November 2007 - 07:51 AM
I did what that one guy said and put a longer bolt in i think stock its a 65mm I used a 70mm and it works fine.
Posted 01 November 2007 - 08:46 AM
Matt892 said:
I did what that one guy said and put a longer bolt in i think stock its a 65mm I used a 70mm and it works fine.
All you did was bought yourself some time. Plan on the fix in the future.
j-man. Thanks!:thumbsup:
Posted 02 November 2007 - 05:39 AM
stock was a 75mm- I went to a 80mm and it works perfect. Even if it's only temporary atleast theres a bolt there now
Posted 02 November 2007 - 06:52 AM
j-man said:
Here's a link to the section of the website that gives part numbers for metric bolts. It also shows a video on installing the timesert.
http://www.timesert....l/mtrcsert.html
You only measure the depth that the bolts goes into the case, not the length of the bolt. We have kits in all sizes, but the Part #1610 is for the kit that I use for the oil bolt. You can order inserts as needed, but you need the kit first.
http://www.timesert....l/mtrcsert.html
You only measure the depth that the bolts goes into the case, not the length of the bolt. We have kits in all sizes, but the Part #1610 is for the kit that I use for the oil bolt. You can order inserts as needed, but you need the kit first.
j-man: I contacted one of the companies on the distributor's list about getting the kit and so far they haven't got back with me. What company do you get yours from?
Posted 02 November 2007 - 07:18 PM
Enginetech out of Texas is where we got ours from. We have three different Tool trucks stop in on us on a weekly basis and I'm thinking that one of the has them on the truck too. ( Matco. Snap-on and Cornwell) Not sure which said they had them are could get them.
Hopes that helps.
By the was we just did a Oil Drain plug on a kx250 that had stripped out completly. Fixed with no leaks with Timesert.
Hopes that helps.
By the was we just did a Oil Drain plug on a kx250 that had stripped out completly. Fixed with no leaks with Timesert.
Posted 03 November 2007 - 11:49 AM
longer bolt works fine. Ive had that on my 07 for over 50 hours now whitout problems.
I think the standard bolt is alittle short.
I think the standard bolt is alittle short.
Posted 03 November 2007 - 12:16 PM
I've ordered some longer bolts for mine for now. Still tryin to buy one of those kits, or at least get a price. I ordered some 80mm and 90mm long bolts and may try to cut-down some 90mm ones to get all of the threads I can.
Thanks for the boltdepot.com info Mikeay! :ride:
Thanks for the boltdepot.com info Mikeay! :ride:
