seller etiquette

[Sectrew]

if you sold a bike and the crankshaft stripped at the sprocket after 20 miles would you give them thier money back?

[martinfan30]

if you sold a bike and the crankshaft stripped at the sprocket after 20 miles would you give them thier money back?

if you knew there was a problem and sold it without telling the unsuspecting buyer, you are morally obligated IMHO.

if you told them and they accepted the terms, its on the buyer.

this can be a sticky situation! if you had a "sold as is" document prepared, you are not obligated.

however, i would probably give the money back (minus parts cost for myself to repair and keep it). you dont know what they were doing to it when it went.

[crmc33]

I had this happen to me on a XL600 I bought at the dealer over ten years ago.

I bought it sold as seen and the splines wore out in 25 miles.

The dealer payed half towards the new shaft and I fitted it myself.

[ghrati ghoti]

if you knew there was a problem and sold it without telling the unsuspecting buyer, you are morally obligated IMHO.

if you told them and they accepted the terms, its on the buyer.

this can be a sticky situation! if you had a "sold as is" document prepared, you are not obligated.

however, i would probably give the money back (minus parts cost for myself to repair and keep it). you dont know what they were doing to it when it went.

+1

What was the advertised condition when you sold it?

[Sectrew]

I was the buyer inthis situation and i understand that they dont know what i was doing when it happened. but it happened in the first three hours. no "sold as is" just advertised it was in great condition

[martinfan30]

I was the buyer inthis situation and i understand that they dont know what i was doing when it happened. but it happened in the first three hours. no "sold as is" just advertised it was in great condition

they absolutely should at least offer for parts cost or labor or even buy it back.

[-=Jughead=-]

if you sold a bike and the crankshaft stripped at the sprocket after 20 miles would you give them thier money back?

Depends.

My bikes don't strip at the crank, or experience other 'grenade' situations. The way I ride is with respect for physics, machinery, and people.

I do see other owners/riders beating the snot out of their junk.

It would be a hard pill to swallow to buck up for the new owner when you do not know how they were treating the bike.

Conversely, it would suck for the new owner if it was not abused, and the crank just "gave up the ghost" on him.

Very awkward situation from all angles.

On a side note, I recall a co-worker asking to borrow my travel trailer and claiming that "it would be in better condition when returned than when borrowed". Realizing that stupid situations can destroy friendships, I declined to loan it out. Turns out that the trailer they did borrow had some suspension breakage during the trip, and neither the borrower or the owner felt they should pay for the repairs. End result? No way to keep everyone happy. that relationship became sour.

One reason I do my best to avoid selling stuff to friends. Sh1t happens, and it can go downhill from there, and essentially not be anyone's fault.

Back to the topic---to me, used vehicles are sold "as-is", unless there's some extenuating circumstance like the seller put on the wrong size sprocket and it ate up the splines when ridden, etc...

[Denn10]

did you tell them what happened and ask if they knew about it? I would tell them whats up and see what they say to you. If they say too bad then your pretty much screwed sucks

[Sectrew]

Denn10 i did just that and he told me that we would work something out after I took it to a mechanic. I asked what he was willing to "work out" and he told me that he shouldnt promise to do anything until he knew what the problem was. I honestly dont think he knew it would happen but i was not abusing it. no offroad no clutch drops just a couple power wheelies.(how can you not?)

[Denn10]

well hopefully he doesnt leave u high n dry GL

[machman]

In Canada there is a rule somewhere that says if anything happens within 30 days you're obligated to return the person's money or split the cost 50/50, regardless of whether you stated the terms as being "as-is".

Car dealerships address this openly, curbsiders hope nobody knows about it...

[ghrati ghoti]

Are you talking about the front sprocket where the chain goes?

What year and model bike, miles?

[Sectrew]

yes where the front sprocket goes It is a 1988 XR600R that was converted to street legal

[ghrati ghoti]

yes where the front sprocket goes It is a 1988 XR600R that was converted to street legal

All bikes are prone to spline damage there from lack of maintenance. Mostly rust will be the culprit, but could also be a poor quality, (fitting), sprocket. On a 20 year old dirt bike, not uncommon. I could see this happening without any symptoms.