anyone ever make a dirt bike street legal in OHIO?
Posted 30 March 2008 - 03:33 PM
Posted 01 April 2008 - 03:42 PM
i was just hoping to skip a step.
won't i have to wait to recieve the title before i can convert it?
Posted 01 April 2008 - 04:21 PM
i was just hoping to skip a step.
won't i have to wait to recieve the title before i can convert it?
if you don't have the title your lien holder will sent it to the title office to convert it......then you go next door to the bmv and plate it
Posted 01 April 2008 - 05:22 PM
guess i'll have to go somewhere else
Posted 03 April 2008 - 08:10 PM
Posted 03 April 2008 - 11:30 PM
Posted 04 April 2008 - 06:58 AM
Wellsville Mike said:
s cool man.......
Posted 04 April 2008 - 07:45 AM
Posted 07 May 2009 - 11:18 AM
"effective immediately off road motorcycles cannot be titled as street motorcycle unless
1) you have receipts from the manufacturer for all the parts needed to make it street legal
2) you get a certificate from the manufacturer stating the bike now meets federal emission and safety standards."
#2 is never going to happen so now I'm looking for options. Maybe a friendly TTer in OH would hook me up?
Posted 08 May 2009 - 04:30 AM
The first step is getting a ohio dirt title and you have to have the VIN verified in person when you transfer a title from out of state.
Posted 10 May 2009 - 04:27 AM
Posted 10 May 2009 - 10:03 AM
Posted 10 May 2009 - 02:46 PM
I've been testing the limits of Ohio's new ORV law - here's how it reads. If we hafta register our off road bikes, at least theres a benefit. 2., 4. and 5. are most useful.
Ohio law requires that all pertinent provisions of the motor vehicle traffic laws and of the laws prohibiting specified offenses relating to motor vehicles, applies to the operation of snowmowbiles, off-highway motorcycles, and APV's.
Authorization is given to utilize snowmobiles, off-highway motorcycles and all APV's to be used:
1. To cross a highway other than a limited access highway or freeway;
2. On county and township highways whenever approved by those having jurisdictional authority over them;
3. Off and alongside streets or highways from the place of unloading the vehicle to the place at which it is intended and authorized to be used;
4. On the berm or shoulder of any highway, other than a limited access highway, or freeway when the terrain is such that the vehicle can be used safely;
5. On the berm or shoulder of a county or township road when traveling from one area of operation to another.
The operation of such vehicles is prohibited under the following conditions:
1. On any limited access highway or freeway or the right-of-way thereof;
2. On any private property without special permission of owner or in any nursery or planting area;
3. On any state-controlled land or waters except those which have been posted as permitting snowmobiles, off-highway motorcycles or APV's;
4. On tracks or right-of-way of any operating railroad;
5. When carrying a loaded or uncased firearm, bow or other hunting implement;
6. To chase, pursue, capture or kill any animal or wildlife;
7. From sunset to sunrise, unless displaying a lighted headlight and taillight as required under equipment regulations.
Section 4519.48 preserves the right of local authorities to regulate the operation of snowmobiles, off-highway motorcycles and APV's on streets and highways and other public property under their jurisdiction, but prohibits them from requiring the registration of such vehicles on a local basis.
Not suggesting anyone do the same, but so far couple of County and a Township LEO have let me travel on once we discussed 4519. Havnt ran into a Statie yet - that might be more of an issue. Oh, it helps to have the pertinent statute at hand and not be an a**hole.
Posted 10 May 2009 - 05:12 PM
Posted 10 May 2009 - 06:16 PM
Didnt mean to hijack - but I see this as an alternative to DSing in certain, limited situations. Its clear from the posted Section 4915 what the registration is - certainly an APV registration and all OHM are required to be licensed now. You get a decal like boats in Ohio. If somehow it appears I'm implying they are the same, I am not. Almost certain I will not DS the KDX I'm looking for.
I ride between two farms we own - roughly 16 miles apart in the same county. Once I discovered this I saw some merit to the APV registration. Haven't found very many people knowledgeable or even aware of this section of ORC, tho I can see the usefulness. If not for other considerations, I would have continued to operate this way.
This does not say you must ride on the berm:
...2. On county and township highways whenever approved by those having jurisdictional authority over them
In Ohio, only a person who holds a current valid motor vehicle operator license, commercial driver license, probationary license or a motorcycle endorsement may operate a snowmobile, off-highway motorcycle or APV on any street or highway, on any portion of the right-of-way thereof, or on any public land or waters, as provided for under the laws of Ohio.
The three together make it plain there's at least contingency for OHM operation on public roads. The question is whether approval must be affirmative or assumed. Ive had none of the 3 LEOs give me any hassle after we spoke.
Dont recommend this instead of conversion to a road registration. Like much of the ORC, its ambiguous and conflicting. Dont think I'd want the ambiguity adjudicated out either. From a practical standpoint, most country roads have no berm. I've asked a couple Legis staff member to get me some clarification - but hasn't been a top priority. Interested to see what they come back with.
Posted 13 May 2009 - 09:25 AM
After reading through this thread...I decided to run home at lunch time and grab my title for my 1997 XR400 and I took it to the Title Agency in Lewis Center on 23 in the Walmart shopping plaza.
I walked in and I said "I need a change of body affidavit" The lady goes and fumbles through some filing cabinet. She fills it out, asks me if it has a headlight, horn, brake light.. etc... i say yes. I pay 6 bucks and I now have a standard motorcycle title. I then go to the DMV which is like 6 doors down in the same plaza and buy my license plate.
Gotta love ohio...
Posted 13 May 2009 - 05:57 PM
I went to the title dept of Licking County and applied for a title in my name. Since the front of the title said NO ODM (the previous owner should not have put 27 on the back where the mileage was) the questions started. This was the ACTUAL mileage (I got such a deal). Had he not done that I would have been given a title straight away. Instead, several of registrars tried to figure out what to do. I suggested they ignore the mileage since it was obviously entered in error. They asked several times if it was "Off Road" or Dirt Bike" I kept insisting it was a dual purpose since it already had a headlight and tail light and I was going to install the required additional equipment. They finally gave me the a new title with out much hassle since I had pointed out it already had a title and the mileage was an error.
They also gave me a form stating the necessary things needed to make (according to the form) "Off highway or self assembled motorcycles... with the following equipment to be titled as a motorcycle. Brakes, head light, tail light, license plate light, mirror,muffler w/ baffles, horn, saddle seat, (and can you believe this) handle bars".
This is an "Affidavit Change of Motor Vehicle Title" it has the standard boiler plate about name MC type etc.to be notarized by them. They said bring this back when the changes were made. But here is the issue - I'm not applying for a title for something that didn't have one. Usually an actual inspection would be necessary by some inspector. But I now have a title and I walked next door and got a plate no problem at all. The BMV doesn't care what the bike looks like. If you have a title you're good to go. So I got a plate. So now, illegal as far as equipment goes, I have a bike I can ride on the street once I do the upgades.
BUT, just to further confuse the issue I went to the Drivers License exam office in the same complex (with plate and title in hand but didn't tell them). I pointed out that the requirements for making the "Off Road" MC qualify for a new title were less than what I thought were the requirements for MC in general (see above - CHANGE OF ...Title). Note: no mention of brake light or more than a single beam on headlight or TURN SIGNALS. This guy goes off on another track completely telling how I have to add ALL the junk because my MC was made since 1964, contact the State Highway Patrol and get an appointment with an inspector then get a title. I don't think anyone really knows the entire procedure. Once I have the title and plate I'm not wasting my time doing this because the cops just want to see a plate, a title, insurance, and whatever level of equipment will keep that particular cop off my back (Sorry, Officer my brake light must be burned out). Of course it looks like they don't even have the equipment requirements straight. If I follow the ones on the affidavit is it enough? After I get a title with the minimum requirements (per above) am I then required to add more junk AFTER it's inspected?
In addition I stuck my driver's license in my scanner before I left to copy it and forgot to put it in my pocket. Both the title dept and the BMV allowed me to get this all done without it or my SS card! (Did have VA ID w/out SS #)
I guess a pleasant demeanor helps. Several of my friends have CRF250/450 X that have also gotten plates but they said Franklin County (Columbus) was more difficult so they did it in Licking Co.
Also regarding bringing a bike into Ohio. If you have a title from another state the only inspection needed to get an OH title is to go to a car or bike dealer and have them confirm on some form that the VIN matches the out of state title VIN. No equip check, etc.
Remember: The worst penalties when you are stopped (if any) are not for equipment squabbles but insurance and registration.
Posted 13 May 2009 - 06:32 PM
Also I discourage calling these places in advance. If you are close enough in Ohio go there and you can much better make your case.
Posted 31 July 2009 - 01:34 PM
Posted 05 August 2009 - 04:19 PM
When they ask for mileage, tell them a number! Sooooo stupid to tell them you have no odo!
Dont tell them what you want to do, (get a plate for a dirtbike). Just ask for the proper forms. Fill them out, pay cash and leave without raising an eyebrow.
What to do if you have no title, follow to the letter or you suck:
1> Come up with a notorized bill of sale with date of sale, year make model, price, vin, sellers&buyers full name, address, phone#.
2>Load the complete, assemble bike into truck and go to LICENSE BUR. Have the notorized bill of sale in your hand and ask for a vin inspection for an off road bike. They will come out, write down the vin, charge you $3.75 and give you a vin inspection form.
3> take notorized bill of sale and vin insp. to TITLE BUR. ask for a title for your off road motorcycle. Be polite, pay them and leave.
4>go home and stare at the title and be happy-you are almost there!
5>at some later date a day, a week or two later, go back to title office. With off road title in hand, ask them for A CHANGE OF BODY AFFIDAVIT. they will prob ask you a question, answer with: OR to MC. (oh-are-too-em-see). Smile the whole time and assure them you have ALL the stuff you need. Look them in the eye and smile: (yes I do have a horn and it works great!)
6>hand them back your change of body affidavit, along with your off road title, and politely ask for a motorcycle title. pay cash and leave.
7>go back to the license bur. and buy an mc plate.
8>celebrate by buying me dinner.
If you have an off road title:
1>go to title office. With off road title in hand, ask them for A CHANGE OF BODY AFFIDAVIT. they will prob ask you a question, answer with: OR to MC. (oh-are-too-em-see). Smile the whole time and assure them you have ALL the stuff you need. Look them in the eye and smile: (yes I do have a horn and it works great!)
2>hand them back your change of body affidavit, along with your off road title, and politely ask for a motorcycle title. pay cash and leave.
3>go back to the license bur. and buy an mc plate.
4>celebrate by buying me dinner.
*************IMPORTANT TO NOTE***************
when buying a machine to convert, try to get one with a title! The only way you can exchange a bill of sale for a title is if the title search comes up "not in file or "nif". If someone already has a title for that frame, or if it is stolen, they will not give you a title.
If you are seriously wanting to buy a bike without a title, right down the VIN, and pay someone to do a title search. If it comes back nif, you are good. If there is a listed owner, ur s.o.l.
Do not argue with the people, just go to a different office.
I tried about 10 title bureuas before I got hooked up. Most of the ladies said "you need an O S P inspection". Ask them to call the main office but if that dont work, move on but do not make any enemies, PLEASE.
Do not ride until you have the headlight, tailight and brake light at least.
LEDs are your friend.
You are welcome!