XR650R-Subframe question and where to put tool bag


17 replies to this topic
  • michaelschorpp

Posted September 12, 2007 - 05:15 AM

#1

Hi There,

I recently upgraded from a 92 XR600R to a 2000 XR650R.

I've noticed that the XR650R lacks a sub-frame underneath the fender like the 600R had. This subframe was very handy for lifting the rear end around. Are there any mods to add a lifting point? I'm planning a 2 week trip to Moab and I'm going to need something.

The 650R also lacks a toolbag, are there any convenient spots to add one?

Mike.

  • husky123

Posted September 12, 2007 - 08:57 AM

#2

I'm going to put the Honda toolbag from the 600R on my rear fender. I'm not going to stuff it with anything too heavy just some basic tools so I'm hoping it'll hold fine.

Also Cycoactive makes this nice little "Glovebox" that mounts to your front numberplate. It can hold a decent amount. I have one and like it.

http://www.cycoactive.com/mc/gb1.html

Hope this helps.

Lee

  • philipstjohn

Posted September 12, 2007 - 10:47 AM

#3

Hi There,

I recently upgraded from a 92 XR600R to a 2000 XR650R.

I've noticed that the XR650R lacks a sub-frame underneath the fender like the 600R had. This subframe was very handy for lifting the rear end around. Are there any mods to add a lifting point? I'm planning a 2 week trip to Moab and I'm going to need something.

The 650R also lacks a toolbag, are there any convenient spots to add one?

Mike.


I use a fanny pack designed for off road riding which holds most of the tools/supplies needed for minor repairs/fixes. I use it when I go out riding in remote areas or away from the base camp too far. However, I just seem to be carrying the extra tools for my buddies not riding Red!...:thumbsup: :ride:

  • Denn10

Posted September 12, 2007 - 11:08 AM

#4

my bag is on rear fender id put it there

  • Haggis

Posted September 12, 2007 - 11:59 AM

#5

My 2001 650R has a steel subframe that bolts to the alloy section and comes all the way back to almost the end of the rear fender. Mine is a European model but I would have though all would be the same. If yours was removed by the previous owner you could simply buy a new one and bolt it on.

  • Suikerland

Posted September 12, 2007 - 01:53 PM

#6

My 2001 650R has a steel subframe that bolts to the alloy section and comes all the way back to almost the end of the rear fender. Mine is a European model but I would have though all would be the same. If yours was removed by the previous owner you could simply buy a new one and bolt it on.



That small steel subframe comes only on Euro and (i think) Australian models, not on US bikes.
It's still not much good for carrying loads.
Lack of load carrying ability on the rear is (in my opinion) the only major problem with the 650R.
There are many solutions, from home-made to ready-made subframes / racks. Google XR650R subframe, you'll probably find a lot. I'm still scouting around for the "perfect" fix.


Here's a guy who posted a lot of detailed pics of his subframe fix:
http://s40.photobuck...s/?sc=1&multi=6

And the Turbocity subframes / racks have had very good reviews:

http://www.turbocity...81c45d504cefb6f

http://www.turbocity...81c45d504cefb6f

http://www.turbocity...81c45d504cefb6f

...but I'd be a bit concerned about what would happen if your rear suspension bottomed out...??

  • Freeflow1

Posted September 17, 2007 - 06:07 AM

#7

the Summers Racing setup seems nice...just add the subframe bracket, no need for the whole rack...?

https://secure.srcin...008&StartRow=11

  • river251

Posted November 25, 2009 - 08:45 PM

#8

the Summers Racing setup seems nice...just add the subframe bracket, no need for the whole rack...?

https://secure.srcin...008&StartRow=11


Does anybody have a pic of this discontinued setup?

Thanks.

  • bigredpig

Posted November 25, 2009 - 09:26 PM

#9

http://www.promotobi...products_id/180
my fix
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or bolt to the frender.

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  • river251

Posted November 26, 2009 - 05:02 AM

#10

Oh, Summers racing = Promotobillet? They mention a subframe, was there a Summers subframe?

Thanks.

  • scalejockey

Posted November 26, 2009 - 08:10 AM

#11

I finally found a spot to put tools,Ther'e in a 12" section of black 2.5"PVC just under the exhast,clamped on with large hose clamps that go through a couple small holes in my alminum skid plate.With two expanding 'test' plugs.For easy access. (Iv'e seen some that were bigger)
I hated having the tool bag on the rear.It gets in my way when i need to "eject" off the back.LOL!

  • bigredpig

Posted November 26, 2009 - 08:14 AM

#12

http://www.dbzproducts.com/extras.htm

dirt bagz sub frame mount is this what you are looking for?

  • motomanx

Posted November 26, 2009 - 06:19 PM

#13

Pro Moto Billet Rack!!

the only way to go.:excuseme:

  • pmxr

Posted November 27, 2009 - 07:53 AM

#14

Pro Moto Billet racks are silly IMHE. They bend easy, are expensive to fix, greatly reduce your body english, and usually mean you are carrying too much crap.
fourstrokesworks.biz makes the best rear fender support IMHO. It's all stainless and round and welded really well.
The Impact Acerbis fanny pack was good enough for Johnny Campbell so perhaps you could shrink your tools and all?

  • river251

Posted November 28, 2009 - 03:24 AM

#15

The fourstrokeworks.biz frame and the dirt bagz frame seem the same structurally except the former has three extra bars which provide no support since they don't attach to the frame. They do add weight and being bolted to the plastic transmit any force on the fender directly, whereas the dirt bagz appears to only have the fender resting on it at the posterior end.

The fsw would be better to use if you plan to add further support (strut to main frame) since it then would provide strong support under the fender, but otherwise the dirt bagz seems to make more sense IMHO. The dirt bagz is a lot like the European subframe.

Both of them are only connected at the two bolts in the end of the soft alloy subframe at the holes that strip out so easily. Without further support struts, I would only use them for handling the bike, gingerly, and they look about equal for that.

Please correct me if I don't correctly understand the fsw. They were going to mail me pics or call and explain it, the pic on the website is useless. Sure the holiday got in the way.

  • psychohawk

Posted November 28, 2009 - 10:12 AM

#16

The Impact Acerbis fanny pack was good enough for Johnny Campbell so perhaps you could shrink your tools and all?

:excuseme:

Now that's just silly: He's going to Moab for two weeks ... hopefully his little, tiny sleeping bag and tent will fit in the Acerbis fanny pack too!

  • pwrpapa

Posted November 28, 2009 - 12:14 PM

#17

tubo city.

Edited by pwrpapa, November 28, 2009 - 04:35 PM.


  • pmxr

Posted November 29, 2009 - 09:33 AM

#18

Of course I implied that if he could shrink his tools to a fanny pack then he could have more room on the bike for his extra long-term gear. So if he's got tool packs and inner-tubes laced here and there then there's no room for a nice Giantloopmoto bag.

:banghead:

Now that's just silly: He's going to Moab for two weeks ... hopefully his little, tiny sleeping bag and tent will fit in the Acerbis fanny pack too!







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