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[Anthony Haas TT Silver Member]

I let a scam from a guy named Sammattan (sammatt51@yahoo.com and samueldanny10@yahoo.com run all the way through to him sending me almost $4,000 US for a Polini 50 I was asking $875 for.  They gave me a email and address for a shipping company in Russia and the funds came as counterfeit American Express Travelers checks in Sterling Pounds from England.  Supposedly the extra was to pay for the shipping that they had already arranged with this company and my own trouble.  All I had to do was deposit the (FAKE) checks and have the cost of shipping western unioned to the shipper to come pick up the bike (Then in about 2-4 weeks when the bank figured out that these were great fakes they would take the money back out of my account and I'd be out the money I wired to the "shipper").  It was kind of funny, because the whole time I wanted to ask the guy (in terrible broken English so he could understand:lol:) - wouldn't it be a lot cheaper to just buy a Polini in Italy where they're made????  At least you're still shipping within the same CONTINENT!  Just thought I'd post this so everyone could see what the whole scam looks like!  Maybe they should change that old saying to "seller beware" these days...

[Old-Man Get Help Now]

Bryan Bosch said:

He has zero posts That's why you didn't find his profile in the member list. The account is now banned. 99.998% of scammers never post. It's a clue on my list:
http://www.thumperta...d.php?p=5643803

Can you look people up by the IP address? I sent the email to a friend and he said he thinks it come from here. 69.147.64.38  comes back as New York City

[Bryan Bosch]

Old-Man said:

Can you look people up by the IP address? I sent the email to a friend and he said he thinks it come from here. 69.147.64.38  comes back as New York City

Location: Nigeria [City: Lagos, Lagos]

[pjbyz TT Member]

Here is a good Craigslist exchange I just had...(it starts at the bottom)...dont know how well it will post...

If want to chat with people go to w4m,m4w.......
Or you selling first time? I bought in last 3 months 25 motorcycles, I
don't
have time to chat (I bought one yesterday)
You look more like scammer to, no pics, no zip are you hiding
something? How
can I be scammer? You can scam me for money.....you are selling, if you
didn't realize.It works like this ,you tell me where we meet you have
bike I
have money,if I like it ,I'll buy,if not I'll leave.no bike you pay for
my
time,if not I'll brake tour leg.



-----Original Message-----
From: Pete Barbano [mailto:barbarossa250@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 2:52 PM
To: Milos Nemec
Subject: RE: 2002 Yamaha YZ250F YZ 250F YZ 250 F - $1950

Well the thing is, as you might know, craigslist is a
haven for email scams, so a message with bad grammar
demanding a zip to start off an exchange isn't a good
base for trust. Anyway, the bike is located in Central
Jersey and I can have some pics for you soon. In the
meantime, if you have any questions about the bike
specifically, ask away...

-Pete


--- Milos Nemec <jimilo22@optonline.net> wrote:

> Zip won't bring me to your house,I like to know
> where are you located ?
> And buyer would like to see same pics, if you are
> legitimate seller
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pete Barbano [mailto:barbarossa250@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 2:05 AM
> To: Milos Nemec
> Subject: Re: 2002 Yamaha YZ250F YZ 250F YZ 250 F -
> $1950
>
> "Give me your zip"? Sure...when you convince me
> you're
> a legitimate buyer...
>
>
> --- Milos Nemec <jimilo22@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> > ** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING
> > LOCALLY
> > ** Avoid:  wiring money, cross-border deals,
> > work-at-home
> > ** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow,
> > shipping
> > ** More Info:
> > http://www.craigslis...bout/scams.html
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Give me your zip.thanks.have any pics?

[mudvision TT Member]

Here is the message trail for an international money order scam that was tried on me this past week. All the classic signs were there as usual.
I have ommitted my communication since I originally fell for the scam due to not educating myself about them prior to posting my ad. DOH!

I did receive fraudulent international money orders in an envelope with no return address postmarked from Paris, France. I also received the usual instructions to cash the money orders at my bank today and kindly wire the remainder to the "private shipper" who is also located in Paris, France.

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terrikushner@hotmail.com
terri01 is inquiring about: 2002 Yamaha YZ290F

Hello seller, I saw your bike for sale and am interested in purchsing it. Pls could you let me know if you still have it available and also what is your final asking price What is the present condition,Why do you put it for sale and When Was it used last and also some pics for closer look?my method of payment is via money order and i will like to know if accepted before we proceed.
Regards
Terri
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terrikushner@hotmail.com

Yes am still interested in the bike and am satisfied with the condition,i will be sending the payment via money order and i will want you to get back to me with your payment information such as full name,contact address where the money order will be send to,i dont want you to worry about the shipment of the bike cos i have my own private shipper that will arrange and schedule for the home pick up as soon as you have received the money order and also i believe the title and all the necessary paper work will be ready before the pick up day cos i won't want that to delay the shipping arrangement,okay?I await your respond soon.

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terrikushner@hotmail.com

Ok no problem but i will want you to go and take the bike out of advert so that we can consider the deal done,okay?Kindly await your payment soon.

Thanks

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terrikushner@hotmail.com

Hello
How was your weekend and i hope is great,you should have received the payment by now in the mail,the payment is included with the shipper information that will be coming for the home pick up and i will want you to get back to me so that we can round thing up in good faith.

Thank you

[05crf150rider TT Silver Member]

i got scammed last year by a guy who was first named mark davies and then he changed his name to paul glass and most of these are about the same as what he said...good thing i didnt send the bike....he sent money orders and they were fake and then he would call the house and have some operator person call and leave a message for him. but its all good now

[Valkrider15 TT Silver Member]

Here's on I received on my posting for a Pipe.  You can always tell becuase they reference "your item" and "on website" or something close to that, never mentioning what you actually have for sell.  I just hit DELETE!!!!


A message about your ad on ThumperTalk
From: nelsonmark11@yahoo.com
You may not know this sender. Mark as safe | Mark as unsafe
Sent:Thu 1/24/08 2:45 PM
To: XXXXXXXX@hotmail.com



nelsonmark is inquiring about: REDUCED - NEW! Dr D Dubach Racing Carbon Exhaust Full System YZ450F 2006-2008 Hello is part  still available on the site for sale, please i will be very glad to read from you and recieve any pictures of the part and other details,  Thank you

[lancem TT Newbie]

I got this in response to my ad for my XR400. Looks like a scammer to me.




nelsonmark is inquiring about: Honda XR400

Hello seller it my pleasure to contact you about the bike you advert on sale,  could please email me back if still available for Grab  and tell me all the conditions and closer pictures, i ive in  ukraine but am presentlly in buffalo new york on a business trip which i will be goin back on soon, i am using this oppurtunty to let you know and instrested to purchase the bike, About payment the method of payment will be inform of certfied cashiers check Drawn on  us bank,

Thank you.

[tree11 TT Bronze Member]

i had scammers using trying same scam on me a year ago.someone told me the cashers check is way more than the price of the bike because it is a check that is already writen and signed that was stolen.the check is no good.
my bank will take it not knowing it`s no good for 10 days.then they find out it was stolen.        so that scam is old news.are there any new scams?
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lancem,i hope you didn`t fall for that SCAM.    
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on dating sites       pretty,young models sell photos to scammers.someone pretends to be the photo that the lonely guy is looking at on the screen.1 thing they ask for is for the guy to create an account on yahoo message.i don`t know how to explain it.it`s like the scammer uses the guys account[new email address]to
hide from the law.does that make any sence?

[sjrdr TT Silver Member]

This clown sent me 3 x $850 money grams for a $350 part. What the heck was he thinking? It's obvious these money orders are fake!

fromMark Nelson <nelsonmark11@yahoo.com>

dateJan 31, 2008 10:02 PM
subjectThanks for your word
mailed-byyahoo.com
signed-byyahoo.com

Robert bear with me once again the money order will arrived in the mail from today friday, the shipping fees has been included in the payment and the shipper details, All you need to do upon recieving the payment is to get hold of the shipper and set p pick up date while you take payment to the bank and cash, after then you contact the shipper with the shipping fees via western unionmoney transfer so that they can schedule pick up for the item. Infact Enclosed with payment is the shipping instruction.

[Jammer26 TT Newbie]

I posted an ad for a puppy for sale in the Buy & Sell website and had a reply from nelsonmark11@yahoo.com - he NEEDED to buy one ASAP and needed payment information quickly.

"Hello am still pretty waiting on you to email me your payment details such as your name and address including your area code and telephone number so that i can proceed with remmitance of payment and forward it in the mail as soon possible, i will be going to conmtact a shipping agent that will be coming fdor the home pick up after payment has been recieved".

SCAMMER!!

[the1_roadrunner TT Member]

Another heads up-
this guy sent me $2,550 in money orders for a pipe I was selling for $150 here on TT. Of course he wanted me to wire him the change after shipping costs. He insisted I deposit the M.O.s in my account then immediately send him the pipe and wire the balance back to him via western union...lol!
Oh, and his mail with the MOs etc. came from France. No return address.

CARLOS BEN" <bencarlos25@yahoo.com

the address he wanted me to wire the money to-
Johnson Moris
1 Rud De Marcadet
Paris, France

morissshipping@yahoo.com

[scientoothical TT Bronze Member]

I just got my "payment and shipping instructions" from BEN CARLOS today! For my Excel wheels carriers for a Kaw for $200.

Same deal 3 MO's for $850 each. I was unaware of these scams. I just thought it was some idiot with bad grammar, I was suspicious of him not asking anything about them. Like what years and if they would fit. Kinda figured he knew what he wanted. Then I got the letter from france....lol! Photocopy with that killer grammar, no namein the header or sign just "hello," and no mention of any part. I google earth-ed the address, both bunk. Starting with 1 duh! Orlando, FL. for the MO's and Paris for the western union transfer. the money grams came from Dollarwise, searched them and they have 12 locations in WA state. At first I offered to cash them at a cashing place (not @ my bank) because my bank was closed, then I thought better of it. So I sent him a reply asking for his address and phone number so I can return them, as the parts is not for sale anymore. We'll see if I hear from him! Then I searched here and found this thread.

I just got a reply as I was writing this! What a jackass, well I guess they got nothing to lose. He wrote...

moreso if you find it difficult to go to the cashing outlet or Busy , i guess you can complete the transaction tommorow after you ve finish recieving the money from the bank, am suggesting.

Thank you

How could I string him along more, or piss him off besides slurs like "frog" etc?

My question is. Do these thieving, punk asses ever do anything online with your name, phone # and address?

ALL thieves are a waste of air, and should be exterminated.

[carters2 TT Gold Member]

I received this one the other day for my bike.  I had it posted on craigslist and the Facebook marketplace.  Here is what he said.

Dear seller,
Am Dayour Coal and i want to make inquiries about this item for my client which is interested in immediate purchase of this item and is ready to pay through certified cashiers check. Before the check will be sent to you,Why are you selling it?In your opinion, what sort of condition is it?How long have you owned it?Have you owned it from new?)If not how many previous owner?what year is this item manufactured?an you help me determine the weight?what is the final price?)i have a friegth company on my own will be available for pick-up of the item? because the operate 7:00am to 7:00pm mon-saturday, i want to tell you that it will be including some extra amount on the check which is meant for the shipping of this item to the buyer destination. After you deduct your money You will send the remaining money to the shipping company immediately in other to come for the pick up faster.If all this is understood by you get back to me with your full name,address,phone number and where to send the check to immediately.Hope to hear from you soon.E-mail (md_coalsmith1986kittymail.com)Thanks.

I sent him and email with answering the questions he asked.  After reading this thread I am completely convinced that this is a scam.  If he sends am e-mail back still interested in the "items" I think I will have him ship the "Cashiers Check" to my school address and then bring them to my bank and tell them that I am pretty sure that they are fake and that I want them to check it out.  I can also get the senders IP address from the e-mail headers and track that IP.  In my reply e-mail I asked where he is located so if it doesn't match up to where he tells me then i know it's a scam.  Maybe I can take out one of these dirt bags.

[tree11 TT Bronze Member]

yes sir,it`s a scam.         your bank will tell you the check is good.10 days latter,your bank will say they were stolen from us bank.
    i`m thinking no one will come get the bike.scammer wants your money.
you should call police.
     dating sites are also full of scams.if you see a photo of a pretty lady,it`s really not her you are typing to.i think they buy photos from modeling agents.
     these scams are old,you would think they would try something new.

[Firenze TT Newbie]

Mine is an international one ..........

Da: Daniel Peter <danieljobb177@yahoo.com>
Inviato: Mercoledì 20 febbraio 2008, 8:37:55
Oggetto: VENDO CBR 600 rr 2005 5500 euro

Hello,
    I don't mind getting the Item for the price because it worth the price and I think I am pleased with it. I will like you to know that Payment would be through a certified european cashier's cheque, the payment is also going to be including with the shippment money so as soon as you have the funds you send the balance to my shipper that will be incharge of the shipment.You will have the payment through my associate in the U.S.A. Because I do not have cash presently and would not like to loose the purchase item and also avoid delay because of the urgency in need of it. Kindly give me the
[1] your name that is going to be writting on the check
[2] your address that the check is going to be forwarded to.
[3] your phone number.
[4] your last offer.
Also you will not be in-care of the shipment to my country, because I have a trusted international shipper that I have been using for the past 18 years that will come for the pick-up of the goods in your location after payment has been confirmed by you.
Please make sure you do everything to make the purchase as clean as it was mention.any other interested parties tell them it has been sold.
My Regards to you and your family.  
Daniel


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[tree11 TT Bronze Member]

i learned something new,an honest person trying to cash the cashers checks
or money orders that the scammers mail to them.the seller could end up behind bars.
        i`m thinking call cops as soon as scammers contact seller.there is probably nothing they can do beacause they are operating outside the usa.

[scientoothical TT Bronze Member]

I have just kept asking him for his address to return them too....of course no reply.

Anyway I got another one on the hook, so I wrote him the following. This should be what anyone should write a suspicious intrested party.

"1. Are you in France, Nigeria, Russia or any other scaming countries?
2. Are you paying $2500 with fake money orders, and I have to western union the rest back to you?
3. Do you have a "shipper" that will pick them up?
4. What kind of bike do you have? ....

If not,  then I will send you the photos. And I apoligize for the accusation.
Thank you."

[dirtflea TT Platinum Member]

Here is a new one to me:

My office gets a call from an operator saying they work for "a hearing impared service".

A staff member checks out the companies and finds that they are legitimate. After a call back we sell a "hearing impared customer some equipment". They use a two different credit cards for each piece of equipment explaining that they don't want to max out either card. We have a security credit card system, we have to feed in the name of the person, the billing address, and the three didgit number on the back of the card. Both transactions are approved and the "customer" signs a purchase contract and faxes it back to us.

The next day we get another assisted call from the same customer. They explain the equipment needs to be shipped to Hawaii and that the transport company does not process credit cards. The customer asked if we could bill their credit card for the shipping amount and then wire that amount to the shipping company via Western Union. Bingo! The red flags go up. I tell my staff member to call the CC company right away and explain the request and check out the CC numbers.

The CC company tells us that the names and addresses don't match the CC numbers and it appears fraudulent. We asked the CC company if there was a way to get them the info and fax number to them so they could investigate the stolen cards. The customer service rep gave us a phone number to call. We called the "fraud" department...........push 1 for this push 3 for that..................so on and so forth. After several calls nobody has called us back.

I have the staffer call the local FBI office to report the fraud and to give them the fax number (we checked it out, it is in Alabama). They give us an identity theft number, same thing............press one for this, three for that.............................. We never get a response.

In the mean time this "customer" keeps calling wonder if we could send money to the "shipping company" in Oakland. I do a lot of export and I have never heard of this company, nor has anyone in the Bay Area. I tell my staffer to string them along and get as much info out of them as possible to give to the authorities. After two weeks the "customer" quits calling. Now a month later, I still have not heard back for the CC company or the FBI.

No wonder there is so much fraud going on, no one cares.

[eplanajr TT Bronze Member]

and I get this email...

Quote

Hello
I have forwarded your vehicle information to my client and after evaluation and due to time constraint on the fact that we are running short of time. I'm delighted to tell you that my client has recommended your vehicle, with full interest and he has instructed me to carry on with his transaction,he hopes the engine is serviced and oil changed too .He cant wait to see the vehicle parked in his garage.
However,My client made out a certified cashiers check of( US $19,000) before he traveled to london for death of his daughter,for a previous vehicle and its shipment charges etc,but it was unfortunately sold.The amount on the check he deposited for the vehicle is bigger than what should be paid to you now, so the check is now meant for the total expenses which includes the purchase of your vehicle,the pick up of the vehicle from its present location and the shipping charges/other necessary shipping arrangements. However he has instructed us to carry on with this transaction. So you're required to d deduct the cost of your vehicle being ( US $12,900)and send the balance of( US $6,100) to the Agent ( our shipper ) for him to be able to offset shipping & tax charges, and other cosmetic repair costs.After payment has reached you and balance sent to shipper, the shipper's agent will come for inspection, pick up (of vehicle & signing of title papers), make some cosmetic touches and drive to a prepaid shipper to be shipped to my customer.and also conclude other necessary shipping arrangements.so you don't have to bother yourself about the pick up and shipping arrangements.
Please Confirm this and provide full name,correct address and phone number for check payment to be delivered to you via fed ex courier .
Thanks and God bless you.

Washington Prestige Auto
Information Services Branch
3004 NE 127th St,
Seattle, WA 98112
(206)309-0707