Automatic four stroke

[CaptainKnobby]

When I was at the Litz Racing shop today getting my suspension redone I noticed a honda 450f in the shop that had a round tube on the clutch perch that the cable went through. On futher inspection I noticed the name on the tube and it said Rekluse.I asked him{Steve Litz) what it was and he said "yea thats my bike" he said you dont have to use the clutch untill about 9000 rpm's That it is good when racing at a national event when the moto's are long. You just have to put it in gear with out having to pull in the clutch and just give it gas. They had one on another bike(I didnt really notice which kind) but it was a honda like a xr modle of some sort not a crf or anything but his boy started it up and showed me how it worked and it was neat. He put the bike in gear wit out useing the clutch and just gave it gas. Is this the same Rekluse clutch that some people here on TT has put on?

[642MX]

Is this the same Rekluse clutch that some people here on TT has put on?

Yep. Its the same clutch. My wife and I both have them. ?

[greentyler]

are you serious?!

that would be sweet for long days of riding... waaaay less arm pump.

what kind of coin are we talking for this type of setup?

[wheelsoff]

When I was at the Litz Racing shop today getting my suspension redone I noticed a honda 450f in the shop that had a round tube on the clutch perch that the cable went through. On futher inspection I noticed the name on the tube and it said Rekluse.I asked him{Steve Litz) what it was and he said "yea thats my bike" he said you dont have to use the clutch untill about 9000 rpm's

Actually you don't have to use the clutch at any RPM. Just shift and use the throttle!

There's also a new model that doesn't use that round tube on the clutch perch; just hook it up and go.

[crf-f crf-r trx cbr]

i have both models on both my r's......genlll and pro.......i will forever own a rekluse and a crf450....oops wrong forum

[xcape]

I love my clutch. I cant see why any one would want to go without it. I roll start my bike alot when I'm out on the trails, I dont think you can do this with a recluse.

Unless you are a tight low speed trails rider, then you are riding the wrong bike(450f) and the recluse is a band aid for this.

[642MX]

I love my clutch. I cant see why any one would want to go without it. I roll start my bike alot when I'm out on the trails, I dont think you can do this with a recluse.

Unless you are a tight low speed trails rider, then you are riding the wrong bike(450f) and the recluse is a band aid for this.

You obviously haven't rode a bike with a Rekluse. They work well for desert, MX, and tight woods. Sure, you can't bump start them, but they won't die unless you run out of gas or you hit the kill button.

[adamdf]

I wonder if any of the pro motocrossers use it? I for some reason just see it as a tool for the average joe but nothing that a racer would want on his bike. Am i wrong?

[xcape]

You obviously haven't rode a bike with a Rekluse. They work well for desert, MX, and tight woods. Sure, you can't bump start them, but they won't die unless you run out of gas or you hit the kill button.

No I havent you may be right. ?

I just think that I use my clutch many different ways when taking off, hard soft hill downhill front wheel up, while in the air etc. I would miss it, I hardly ever use it for shifting unless I'm going to force a shift.

I also understand you need to throttle downhill? ? I love my engine braking, and the steeps I ride I could not imagine having to use the throttle.

It would make learning to ride easier for sure.

[Ga426owner]

I wonder if any of the pro motocrossers use it? I for some reason just see it as a tool for the average joe but nothing that a racer would want on his bike. Am i wrong?

For the nationals this year several teams are using the Hinson version of the slipper clutch....they can and do work well for mx. ?

[642MX]

I also understand you need to throttle downhill? ? I love my engine braking, and the steeps I ride I could not imagine having to use the throttle.

Its a common misunderstanding about the engine braking with an auto-clutch. Keep reading, hopefully I can explain this.... When you lock up your rear brake, the bike has no engine braking. If you just barely touch the gas (and let right back off) the clutch re-engages and you have normal engine braking. This takes some getting used to, but it becomes second nature within a day of riding.

As a former A rider, I can say the Rekluse works like magic. I wish they where out 10 years ago....... Maybe I would've won some more races. ?

[grayracer513]

For the nationals this year several teams are using the Hinson version of the slipper clutch....they can and do work well for mx. ?

Slippers and Auto Clutches are two different things:

https://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4884948#post4884948

[grayracer513]

Its a common misunderstanding about the engine braking with an auto-clutch. Keep reading, hopefully I can explain this.... When you lock up your rear brake, the bike has no engine braking. If you just barely touch the gas (and let right back off) the clutch re-engages and you have normal engine braking. This takes some getting used to, but it becomes second nature within a day of riding.

True. The engaged or disengaged state of an auto clutch like the Rekluse is totally dependent on the speed of the engine. When you accelerate from an idle, the centrifugal force runs a set of balls up a set of ramps, and the clutch engages. When you let off the throttle, the engine is no longer making torque, but it is still spinning, so the same centrifugal force is still present, and the clutch stays engaged until you slow the engine down enough to disengage it.

Once it disengages, either because you locked the rear wheel, or just came to a near stop, speeding the rear wheel up by rolling down hill will not re-engage the clutch. But as 642 pointed out, a simple throttle blip will, and once hooked up, it stays engaged until you slow down again.

[kxman]

You obviously haven't rode a bike with a Rekluse. They work well for desert, MX, and tight woods. Sure, you can't bump start them, but they won't die unless you run out of gas or you hit the kill button.

I had one for a short time on my 450, couldn't get it off my bike quick enough. Funny thing is, I thought I would love it until I tried it. All I ride is tight woods and I had an auto clutch on my previous bike and really liked it. My pervious bike was a KX250 and the auto clutch I put on it was made by a company called EFM. Don't know if they are even in business anymore. That clutch worked great from the start. Never could keep the Rekluse in adjustment. Got tired of messing with it and lost my butt on resale. Best thing I did after that was install the Yamaha off-road flywheel. My bike will not stall now unless you have no riding skill at all.

[Captaincautious7]

I thought you could disengage and reengage like a traditional system if needed? Whats the setup price for the recluse and what are the negatives for using one on a motocross. I've never seen one on a bike much less a motocross bike.

[CaptainKnobby]

what kind of coin are we talking for this type of setup? Litz the man who done my suspension said the one on his bike was $600.00:thumbsdn:

[crf-f crf-r trx cbr]

600 for the pro......400 for the genlll.......works just like pro except pro has a better feel on the override.....a feel that is exactly like stock....how do i know......i have both on both my CRF450R'S

[kid on a 426]

For the nationals this year several teams are using the Hinson version of the slipper clutch....they can and do work well for mx. ?

Slipper clutches and rekluses are much different aren't they?

[grayracer513]

Slipper clutches and rekluses are much different aren't they?

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