How to make your hard stock seat soft


33 replies to this topic
  • CWO4GUNNER

Posted June 09, 2007 - 01:40 PM

#1

When it comes to modern stock dirt bike seats they all seem a bit hard to me on the trail and as a result I reupholstered both my DRZs and my RM 100 seats with Guts Tall Soft foam and covers which worked well. But I realized that not only did I have to spend $100 for the supplies but also was left with perfectly good stock seat cushions and covers I could no longer use. So this time I decided to try and use the old cushion and cover before investing more money. Surely if a seat cushion can be trimmed down with a razor to make it lower it can also be made softer by Swiss cheesing the cushion with a drill gun. The results were better then I expected with no visible changes once the seat cover was replaced. The key is to not drill through the plastic seat frame and to be aggressive but not overdue it. Its now defiantly softer and yet not compromised and not bottoming out. So I guess I saved myself $100.
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  • Mr. Epeen

Posted June 09, 2007 - 02:24 PM

#2

great idea:applause: . i may have to try that.

  • CWO4GUNNER

Posted June 09, 2007 - 03:09 PM

#3

I recommend leaving the foam on the plastic frame for the drilling, careful NOT to drill through the plastic. Use about a 3/8 inch drill on high speed and drill each hole once and deep without letting the drill dance and make the hole too big. Don't worry if it initially looks like the hole stayed closed, just keep the pattern up even on the top then the sides. Then go back with a needle nose pliers and pull out the foam from each hole or if you feel lucky use the drill but be careful you don't let it dance too large a hole. If you do make a hole too big or the drill dances a big curve, just leave it alone and fill it back with some droppings. Before replacing the cover try the seat out to make sure its holly enough then replace the cover. Took me about 30 minutes watching TV, a beer and a vacuum. :thumbsup:

  • CFR450X07

Posted June 09, 2007 - 06:29 PM

#4

You guys are smart cookies, why didnt i think of that??? i am definitally hiting that up! thanks for the idea

  • Zendog

Posted June 09, 2007 - 07:28 PM

#5

honda seats are hard??? this is news to me. You guys should compare them to ktm seats. Ktms are like sitting on the skinny side of a 2x4.
Ktms will make your ass feel and look like this

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  • cubera

Posted June 09, 2007 - 08:35 PM

#6

The stock seat will get softer over time but it is far from cush. I'm using a Guts soft foam under a Guts cover and it is much better.

  • skoot22

Posted June 10, 2007 - 01:39 AM

#7

nice work, i try not to sit down too much, but that looks like something i might try

  • witdogg

Posted June 10, 2007 - 01:43 AM

#8

When it comes to modern stock dirt bike seats they all seem a bit hard to me on the trail and as a result I reupholstered both my DRZs and my RM 100 seats with Guts Tall Soft foam and covers which worked well. But I realized that not only did I have to spend $100 for the supplies but also was left with perfectly good stock seat cushions and covers I could no longer use. So this time I decided to try and use the old cushion and cover before investing more money. Surely if a seat cushion can be trimmed down with a razor to make it lower it can also be made softer by Swiss cheesing the cushion with a drill gun. The results were better then I expected with no visible changes once the seat cover was replaced. The key is to not drill through the plastic seat frame and to be aggressive but not overdue it. Its now defiantly softer and yet not compromised and not bottoming out. So I guess I saved myself $100.
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That’s nice it worked for you. I have a buddy that has a 525 and he tried the same thing and he said it made no difference at all. He ended up buying an aftermarket seat after all. Maybe there is a difference in the foam hardness from a Honda to a KTM. :thumbsup:

  • CWO4GUNNER

Posted June 10, 2007 - 07:32 AM

#9

More holes, especially sideways. I haven't done any long ride test yet but its worth a try for free if the seat is a toss out anyway. But I don't think it will compare with a Guts soft foam, we'll see, I have some other tricks I will try and post before replacing the seat for bucks.

I have a buddy that has a 525 and he tried the same thing and he said it made no difference at all. He ended up buying an aftermarket seat after all. Maybe there is a difference in the foam hardness from a Honda to a KTM. :thumbsup:



  • Zendog

Posted June 10, 2007 - 08:06 PM

#10

The stock seat will get softer over time but it is far from cush. I'm using a Guts soft foam under a Guts cover and it is much better.


I dont care for the guts seat. It reminds me of a soaked watercraft/snowmobile seat or even like sitting with a pile of crap in your pants. Which i havent done in many, many years

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  • CWO4GUNNER

Posted June 10, 2007 - 09:12 PM

#11

Well I took my new 06 x out for ride with my modified stock seat and I must say I noticed it took the edge off that board feeling and could actually feel it squishing in the bumps. I also noticed it took the bite off my inner thighs. Now to set the suspension back a few notches for a plusher ride. I was thinking of taking off some pre load, dampening and rebound. Anybody have the KTM settings for a plusher ride on their x?

  • Zendog

Posted June 11, 2007 - 01:49 PM

#12

ktms are different forks. The settings dont compare

  • CWO4GUNNER

Posted June 11, 2007 - 02:39 PM

#13

Oh I know I'm was just being sarcastic since KTM owners hang their hats on the bike's plush ride. Personally I found them no more plush then my old DRZ at slower speeds of course. One great thing about the DRZ, it was a camel, but a camel you could ride for almost 8 hours without the need for monkey butt recovery next day.

I'm just trying to find as plush a sweet spot as I can on my new x and thought some old owner out their might have recipe LOL.

ktms are different forks. The settings dont compare



  • cubera

Posted June 11, 2007 - 02:45 PM

#14

I dont care for the guts seat. It reminds me of a soaked watercraft/snowmobile seat or even like sitting with a pile of crap in your pants. Which i havent done in many, many years



Yeah, but when you are my age sh!tting in your pants feels natural. I find the Guts soft seat foam really nice compared to stock but that damn gripper seat cover takes some getting used to and it a pain in the arse to put on.

  • lb37

Posted June 11, 2007 - 03:36 PM

#15

i might have to try this...sounds like an awesome idea.

  • Switch540

Posted June 11, 2007 - 07:43 PM

#16

Sounds like a good idea. I don't sit much except on a road but this will help there.

  • CWO4GUNNER

Posted June 11, 2007 - 07:44 PM

#17

Rather then waste a new thread on suspension which is in line with soft seats, I will add that I got my shocks tuned for a 50 year old man mode as I only stand up when necessary. Lowered the dampening in the front shocks 4 clicks and increased the rebound 1 click. On the rear I dropped preload to minimum spec of 10.25 inches and then increased high speed dampening within 1/2 turn of maximum and low speed dampening increased by 1 click from default spec. The ride is now plush yet compliant for my old ass and I can go pretty fast down the goat trails standing for the occasional protruding rock with comfort. After it brakes in I will have to reset it again as I notice it. But for now its a hell of allot plusher.:thumbsup:

  • cubera

Posted June 11, 2007 - 07:56 PM

#18

HAHAHAHA! Easy on the age thing, Gunner:naughty: I know a guy who is 50 years old who still finishes top 5 OA almost all the time amongst the very fastest desert racers in the world.....no joke:thumbsup:

  • CWO4GUNNER

Posted June 11, 2007 - 08:28 PM

#19

Ouch I can almost feel his post race pain. the problem is no matter how good a shape you are in at 50 the connective tissue just ant what its used to be and one good high speed endow and the sport you could have enjoyed for another 10-15 years in slow mode is "game over man" and although the same thing could happen trail riding, at race speed its allot more damage after age 40 and especially after age 50. So like my 92 Nissan pickup with 189,000 miles, I'm easy on the machinery and saving myself for the next 20 years LOL.

HAHAHAHA! Easy on the age thing, Gunner:naughty: I know a guy who is 50 years old who still finishes top 5 OA almost all the time amongst the very fastest desert racers in the world.....no joke:thumbsup:



  • Johnnybmoto

Posted June 16, 2007 - 07:36 PM

#20

Thats a great Idea, Thanks





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