XR600R as dual sport (legally?)


13 replies to this topic
  • WIVO_Riley

Posted May 29, 2007 - 08:59 AM

#1

My first Post!! Great site here guys... Lots of info and learning much.

I just picked up a XR600R Has tail light and headlight- no sigs- never had them.
Love to use the thing as a dual-sport.

BUT- no title here in WI for it.

Any ideas where to proceed? Not buying another bike- this one was the right price and I bought it for dirt use- added use would be great.

Thanks in advance

Riley

  • Black Mesa Offroad

Posted May 29, 2007 - 09:35 AM

#2

My first Post!! Great site here guys... Lots of info and learning much.

I just picked up a XR600R Has tail light and headlight- no sigs- never had them.
Love to use the thing as a dual-sport.

BUT- no title here in WI for it.

Any ideas where to proceed? Not buying another bike- this one was the right price and I bought it for dirt use- added use would be great.

Thanks in advance

Riley


Look up your state laws in regards to what equipment you need to make it street legal. Also, contact your local department of motor vehicles and ask them if the state even allows a bike to be plated if it has all of the required equipment. While you are on the phone with them, find out exactly what the process is you will have to go through to get the plate.

  • WIVO_Riley

Posted May 29, 2007 - 10:36 AM

#3

Look up your state laws in regards to what equipment you need to make it street legal. Also, contact your local department of motor vehicles and ask them if the state even allows a bike to be plated if it has all of the required equipment. While you are on the phone with them, find out exactly what the process is you will have to go through to get the plate.


Yeah- I'm waiting for a response from WIDOT/DMV. They say please wait 4 days for a response. I know what equip needs to be installed (no biggy).

I read that Wisconsin has some "roadblocks" to trying to do this, guess I should have rephrased question to "anyone make it past WI's road block"?

Thanks

Riley

  • focallength

Posted May 29, 2007 - 01:41 PM

#4

Also do a search for people who specialise in plating dirtbikes in your state. I live in cali and got my 96xr600r plated last year. the guys who specialise in it can get it done usually no matter how diffiuclt your state makes it. In cali its almost impossible but I got it done and my bike is nowhere near street legal, so you should have no trouble in wisconsin.

  • WIVO_Riley

Posted May 29, 2007 - 01:55 PM

#5

Also do a search for people who specialise in plating dirtbikes in your state. I live in cali and got my 96xr600r plated last year. the guys who specialise in it can get it done usually no matter how diffiuclt your state makes it. In cali its almost impossible but I got it done and my bike is nowhere near street legal, so you should have no trouble in wisconsin.


Google turns up nothing useful- any place to start? Please? Thx

Riley

  • exaresix

Posted May 29, 2007 - 03:42 PM

#6

Also do a search for people who specialise in plating dirtbikes in your state. I live in cali and got my 96xr600r plated last year. the guys who specialise in it can get it done usually no matter how diffiuclt your state makes it. In cali its almost impossible but I got it done and my bike is nowhere near street legal, so you should have no trouble in wisconsin.


Can you direct the poor folks in California who these special guys are? I just sold an AZ street-legal xr400r to a buddy in CA, and he's looking for those guys that can help him get it done.

  • Black Mesa Offroad

Posted May 29, 2007 - 10:06 PM

#7

Google turns up nothing useful- any place to start? Please? Thx

Riley


Wisconsin vehicle laws. Specifically equipment of vehicles. Once you click on that, then start searching through using "motorcycle" as your search term. Read each section pertaining to motorcycles, you might have to backtrack because of the references of other laws they cite to see exactly what they are talking about, and make out a list while you go.

Here is a little something I learned in my quest. I contacted our state agency in charge of licensing a few months ago, lady tells me I have to get it inspected by a trooper, then go down to them to get the tag. So I talk to my trooper buddies because I wanted the inspection form just to make sure it jived with my research into what the state laws said. They couldn't find the form, nor any of them had any idea what I was talking about. I couldn't find a form on any of the state websites, so yesterday I call the tag agent back asking if they have the forms. Of course they did, so I asked if I could pick one up. I also clarified the process with her. No, I don't need to have a trooper inspect it, they do it. So I go to the tag agent and ask for the form and it turns out all the form is is a VIN verification form. She tells me that the tag agent checks the VIN and the street legality. I walk out. I could probably take the bike as is down to a tag agent while in uniform and tell them it's street legal and they wouldn't have a clue one way or another.:)

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  • Coolidge

Posted May 30, 2007 - 02:14 PM

#8

Who in Calif does this service?
Thx in advance

  • pburke

Posted May 30, 2007 - 02:29 PM

#9

you are SOL here in WI with a bike that is not aleady titled for on-road use.

I had to buy my bike in Minnesota with a title issued there and then have that transfered, however, others have had problems even doing that (apparently some bikes are listed as "not roadworthy" when they pull them up in the computer based on the VIN. Any Gasgas for example is off limits for a street title here, even if it has one from another state).

So, if you already have the bike, you have to look at other options. Got a relative in Montana? etc...

Peter

  • WIVO_Riley

Posted May 30, 2007 - 06:34 PM

#10

you are SOL here in WI with a bike that is not aleady titled for on-road use.

I had to buy my bike in Minnesota with a title issued there and then have that transfered, however, others have had problems even doing that (apparently some bikes are listed as "not roadworthy" when they pull them up in the computer based on the VIN. Any Gasgas for example is off limits for a street title here, even if it has one from another state).

So, if you already have the bike, you have to look at other options. Got a relative in Montana? etc...

Peter


Thanks Peter- I'm kind of aware of the situation, but I have a real hard time takin no for an answer without real justification for the answer I get.

This was the response I got from the WIDOT when asking them for thier thoughts on the possibility if the bike was properly equipped
:
[COLOR="Blue"]Currently, your bike is not legal for road use. You can contact the State Patrol to see what the guidelines are for a legal bike. However, what you have is not made for street use and we would not title or plate the vehicle. The State Patrol's number is 608 266 3212. You can call and ask for an inspector if you have any other questions.[/COLOR]

Let's say I do know someone from another state. Could they title it in that state and then I "buy" the bike and transfer the title to WI? I find conflicting answers while searchin around.

Not the end of the world for me, just would like something other than bureaucratic cr@p spewed to me from someone who is just waiting till their state pension kicks in. I think the bike- if properly equipped, would be "a more than capable" streetbike. I see plenty of "custom" bikes out there that really shouldn't be on a public road- they can hardly turn a corner without paddling.

So.... long story short, anyone successfully do this in WI?

Thanks in advance.

Riley

  • pburke

Posted May 31, 2007 - 06:28 AM

#11

Thanks Peter- I'm kind of aware of the situation, but I have a real hard time takin no for an answer without real justification for the answer I get.


So.... long story short, anyone successfully do this in WI?

Thanks in advance.

Riley



I don't think you can get this done using a bike that has a manufacturer's "not for highway use" title. It probably is a lot easier to just say it's a complete custom DIY build and get it title like some of those Harley custom hack jobs get titled that never had a title.

I don't know of anyone who recently titled a bike. My dealer here in Madison told me that a few years ago he was able to get a plate for his CR500, but nowadays that's all impossible, even if you "know people" at the DMV.

Others have sent the title to relatives in Montana or Colorado - get it registered there, and simply use the bike with those plates in WI. Obviously not an option for everyone.

I just followed my dealer's advice and bought a titled bike in MN and had the thing transfered to me. No inspection, no hassle. The clerk at the DMV pulled up the VIN and no flags were raised. I walked out with title and plate for the XR650R. I have yet to meet another person who has one here in the state that actually has a WI title, though.

Peter

  • focallength

Posted May 31, 2007 - 04:39 PM

#12

Google turns up nothing useful- any place to start? Please? Thx

Riley


Ask around, go to bike shops and talk to the guys/gals there if there is someone around they will know it. As far as the DMV sometimes it can still be done even if it cant be done. Thats why you should find someone who specialises in it. They will be able to get it done with no hassles on your end. Then you get to ride around town on a dirt bike getting :thumbsup: and "WHOOA!" from little kids.

I have my 600r plated in cali, so if I can get it done here you should be able to get it done in WI. Also look for DS (dualsport) clubs. they should know better thananyone how to get it done. Heck 99% of the guys I ride with have bikes that arent street legal, we still have plates.

Also try ADVRIDER.com go to the regional section look for your region and post there. you should be able to get someone who can help you.

  • thunderhog

Posted June 04, 2007 - 06:19 PM

#13

Hey WIVO, I went through the same stuff with my xr600r last summer. I called the trooper and he was a nice guy but he said if the title says off road only, it can't be plated in WIS even with the proper dual sport add-ons. I bought my bike in MI and it came with a title. It did say "off road" on it. If you can get your xr titled in another state and then transfer to WIS, it may work, but that is not a guarantee. If you do get it titled, don't transfer the title by sending it to Madison. Go to a dmv that can give out plates on the spot. Don't ask no questions and don't tell no lies. That's how I did it. I just walked right in and asked for a new title and plates - it worked. No inspection, no trooper, same way as pburke. Good luck

  • WIVO_Riley

Posted June 05, 2007 - 07:12 AM

#14

Hey WIVO, I went through the same stuff with my xr600r last summer. I called the trooper and he was a nice guy but he said if the title says off road only, it can't be plated in WIS even with the proper dual sport add-ons. I bought my bike in MI and it came with a title. It did say "off road" on it. If you can get your xr titled in another state and then transfer to WIS, it may work, but that is not a guarantee. If you do get it titled, don't transfer the title by sending it to Madison. Go to a dmv that can give out plates on the spot. Don't ask no questions and don't tell no lies. That's how I did it. I just walked right in and asked for a new title and plates - it worked. No inspection, no trooper, same way as pburke. Good luck


Yep- my plans exactly- IL requires titles for dirt bikes as well as street, as far as I can tell- I bought this with ZERO paperwork but the bill of sale- I've got a ton of friends down in IL that I could get a bonded title in IL, then take that IL title which would be marked with "off-road use only" (if I can't get the thing a street title in IL right off the bat), then go through Montana's steps of conversion which seem pretty easy- just some forms to carefully fill out, etc. Once that's done- I should have a vaild Montana street title and plates- only ? would be if I could get it transferred in WI and be good to go.

This will be a winter project when I've got plenty of time. I'll keep in touch to let know know how it goes, believe me.

Riley





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