A WR450 over a KTM 525, am I crazy?
Posted April 24, 2007 - 11:01 AM
I was set on a 2003-2005 KTM 525EXC but I've ridden 2 used 525 MXC's lately and both had very strong low end but little to no top end. My WR seems much more fun to ride, it has good low end power (heavy flywheels helps on trails) a strong mid-range hit and it pulls hard to redline. The KTM's I rode have great power until a perceived 6-7,000 RPM's where the power just almost stops, you almost have to short shift it to keep accelerating. I love everything about the KTM's, the ergo's, the looks. the seemingly easy maintenance, and especially the 6th gear. I've been told that it is the lower compression ratio and longer stroke that keep the 525 from "feeling" fast like a WR with its high compression and high revving 5 titanium valve engine.
So now I'm looking at used WR450's, how could I go wrong? I know about maintenance on them, all mods, have spare parts and filters already, etc. If only they had a 6th gear they would be the perfect bike for me.
What changes were made from 2003-2006? I've been told that the WR426's are slightly faster than most WR450's or have more hit, is this true? What years of WR450's came with the digital speedo? I've got a trailtech Vapor now but would rather have the smaller factory unit. Can it be retrofitted to older bikes I assume?
So am I crazy to pick another WR instead of a KTM?
Posted April 24, 2007 - 11:40 AM
Food for thought.....
Posted April 24, 2007 - 11:48 AM
Have you thought about an 07? The stock gearing on an 07 is 13/50 which is more or less equivalent to the 14/50 of the pre 07s (the primary drive ratio on the 07 is different from all previous year WRs in this respect). By bumping the gearing up to to 14/50 I have been able to hang quite well with my 525 riding buddies when speeds open up. At the other end, the incredibly torquey nature of the motor pulls the 14/50 gearing even in the tight stuff. Only if I'm riding VERY tight terrain do I switch back to the 13/50, in which case the KTM 6th gear is a moot point anyway.
Food for thought.....
Hmmm...didn't know that the '07 WR had different primary gearing than the previous years. Mine is currently geared 13/47 and is great for singletrack and trailriding but it tops out at about 75 fully revved out. I can maintain 55 for a few minutes to connect trails but it is revving pretty good. I have used a 15 tooth front for a while on long mostly highway rides, but it is not good at all for most tight trails.
I will never buy a brand new bike (unless I came into a bunch of money, then I would still hesitate).
Posted April 24, 2007 - 12:41 PM
No, you are not crazy for considering the 450 over the 525.
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Posted April 25, 2007 - 06:45 AM
Yamahas are much more refined then KTM. Ktm came up with a lame idea for 2006. They decided to create a gas cap that leaks, and then send out viton gaskets that dont fix the problem. They
My (and apparently so do a lot of other) 07 WR450 pukes gas out of the so called one way gas cap valve on to the front fender when the tank is full:busted: And yes, it's installed correctly.
Posted April 25, 2007 - 08:03 AM
Posted April 25, 2007 - 08:25 AM
What changes have been made? I was looking at 2003-2004 until I read that in 2005 the WR450 got an updated frame, some lighter weight components and some other changes. I would like to find something for around $4000 which seems like it would be a 2003-2004. is the 2005 noticeably better?
Posted April 25, 2007 - 11:08 AM
X 3... SWITCHED MY 450 EXC FOR A 07 WR 450. BETTER RIDING POSITION, FEELS LIGHTER IN TIGHT TURNS, AND SPARE PARTS SUPPLY FAR BETTER THAN THE ORANGE....
X2 I did the same thing. I think the Yamaha is more dependable. Seems like with KTM, you either get a good one, or a bad one.
Posted April 25, 2007 - 12:51 PM
does the e start work on the 07 ?i ride a 03 with around 7000 miles on it and i do love ol blue but the truth is .my sons 400mxc is twice the bike in all areas ,yes i still bleed blue !but if you want the facts.......
I really like the e-start feature on my '07 WR450. In fact, on the single track, it's pure heaven.
I usually kick her over but, when I'm felling tired or stall it on the ST, I stab the joy button and smile at my buddy kicking his KTM.
Posted April 25, 2007 - 01:19 PM
Posted April 25, 2007 - 05:01 PM
i have an 01 wr 426 but i've ridden a few wr 450s i have found that the 450s dont have the same snappy power the 426 has...personally i like the aggressive snap, although i've heard Yamaha has been taming the 450 because people dont like the snappiness....from what i've experienced i would say this is true, and i would not want to down grade to a 450 from a 426!
I think the 450's you rode possibly were not set up right. I had a 2000 WR400 that ran really good but my 450 runs a lot better. This is according to myself and other riders who have ridden both. I really like snap in a throttle too but there are several tricks to make on a stock 450 in achieving that. I litterally wear out a new dunlop back tire in one 4 hour ride. Next time I'm going with a maxis as they're supposed to last longer.