Wr250f vs. Wr450f
Posted March 03, 2007 - 07:33 PM
Okay, so I've done a bit more reading than that...but I have some questions now that I've done the reading. First, myself. Im lightweight at 5'8'' 120lbs. I would rate my skill as beginner, I've rode for a good part of my life, but only chasing cows (ranching, fun) and in some undeveloped property working on my balance in sandy conditions as well as rock and muddy (deep mud!) in some swampy areas. My currently bike is a KLX250S (292lbs) thats really under powered.
I have started a track that can travel the perimeter of about 30 acres, that Im riding to hone my skills. I also can ride on a home built MX style course, really Im looking to ride my bike a lot more in any conditions (Im a sled head) from the sandy trail, to the swampy mud bogs and take the MX tracks when I get a chance. I also want to dual sport it up (KLX gave me bad habits) to commute to work.
Now, for things I understand:
250F more nimble, light, better for tight tracks. Be nice for chasing cows, they can turn on a dime and I need to as well. my KLX can out run a cow so Im sure a 250F can too. Probably suit my skill level on most terrain.
The 450F is nice for the straight aways, dunes, and street. It is heavier, but still lighter than my KLX. Gobs more power too.
Things I am not sure about (and why Im here groveling for answers)
At my weight, will the 250F be sufficient on the street? I ride about a 4 mile round trip to work (90% of the commuting) and no farther to get to a majority of the destinations on the bike. I do ride some longer trails, gravel roads that are nice and open, probably 50-60 mile trips.
If the 250f is not up to hauling me on the street, would the 450f be tame enough for me to come to terms, and be able to hone my skills sufficiently? Im used to a sled thats got some power (140HP) but I know thats a little bit different that on a bike. Again, I am used to getting wallowed around by the heavyweight KLX, so I question if I would notice how 'heavy' the 450F is in the tight sections.
Anyways, I hope my question is a little more specific than the stock "250vs450 debate. I would probably be more apt to give up tight trail performance to gain (slight) valve train reliability and a more comfortable trail ride.
Posted March 03, 2007 - 08:58 PM
Speaking of pizza, I'm off to have some now:crazy:
Posted March 03, 2007 - 09:07 PM
Posted March 03, 2007 - 09:32 PM
Whats a corked up 450f run like? An uncorked 250f?
Posted March 03, 2007 - 10:38 PM
Posted March 04, 2007 - 05:19 AM
Posted March 04, 2007 - 08:13 PM
Posted March 04, 2007 - 09:29 PM
Posted March 05, 2007 - 04:27 PM
Posted March 05, 2007 - 05:40 PM
My KLX is heavy enough. Its even bigger.
While an uncorked 450 would be balls out scary, I feel a corked 450 would be tame enough to improve my skills on...
Posted March 05, 2007 - 08:23 PM
Your a good fit for a 250. I have a 05 wr450 uncorked and a 01 yz250f. My son is about your size and the 250 is plenty for him. I am 5'9, 210 and it pulls me too. But not like my 450. It's a monster. In the winter we mostly ride Watkins and Pueblo. If you ever make to those places or out to Castle Rock let me know and you could test ride them both.
Castle Rock is on the other side of the hill from me, I won't be driving that far to ride:applause:
What was your 450 like before you uncorked it? While Im sure a YZ250F would pull me just fine, the plugged up WR250F is going to be a far cry from it... Hence the desire to jump to a Wr450.
Posted March 05, 2007 - 11:49 PM
My 450 is plated. I don't ride it on the road that much. It is not a good road bike IMHO. It hates constant throttle positions. It wraps out to 5th gear quick on the road. But I have my front sprocket geared down to 13 from a 14. So others may have a differant experiance. If the 450 is your choice and you will be riding the road a lot you may want to consider uping the gearing.
Posted March 06, 2007 - 05:51 AM
Thanks for your input, its been helpful
Posted March 06, 2007 - 06:13 AM
Posted March 06, 2007 - 06:50 AM
Let me confuse the issue by saying that the 450 isn't that overpowering. Just because you have a big stick, doesn't mean you have to use it. I just rode mine this weekend in single track and it did great ! I could easily keep my buddy on his kdx 200 in sight after I got my butt going. The extra power comes in handy on hills. I find the WR line fun and easy to ride. Much less demanding than the KTM 525 exc that I had. Get the 450 ! You won't regret it !
Good Luck !
ps. If you get the 450, don't have any illusions about spanking a 525 KTM. They turn on where the WR450 turns off.
Posted March 18, 2007 - 08:36 AM
I have a 450wr and love it! Very uncorked and tons of fun in the dunes or where ever i am riding.
These are greeeeeeat bikes!