Your steel framed 450 will turn!!


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  • mxracer206

Posted February 26, 2007 - 05:18 AM

#1

This may be old news for some but after trying dozens of settings I finally put a Storm link on my 05 YZF-450. Last time I checked they only offered a complete linkage for the 05 and it was more than I wanted to spend but called and they had just the link. This made my bike turn unbeleivably better. No more mid turn foot stabbing, climbing out of ruts or pushing on flat turns. You will really like your old steel framed 450 if you try one.

  • Ga426owner

Posted February 26, 2007 - 07:23 AM

#2

Agreed - I have one on my 03 and it works very well. :applause:

  • YzGuy79

Posted February 27, 2007 - 01:23 PM

#3

But does it give up straight line stability?

  • 2wheels-drz

Posted February 27, 2007 - 03:16 PM

#4

i dunno, but i though i read somewhere that if ur drop ur forks down in the triple clamps just alittle, that this would have the same affect as a storm link....has improved things for me, but i have nothing to compare against so who knows...??

  • grayracer513

Posted February 27, 2007 - 05:25 PM

#5

Dropping the front end or raising the back accomplish the same thing exactly. It just gets to be a question of how much.

You do loose a little high speed stability by steepening the head angle, but, IMO, the bike gains more turning traction and gives up less stability by this approach than by offsetting the triple clamps for more trail.

  • mxracer206

Posted February 27, 2007 - 06:18 PM

#6

But does it give up straight line stability?


I ride 99.9% mx and even with 23mm offset clamps and the forks raised to the line I had no stability problems. I can't comment on anything at extremely high speed as this is where headshake would be a problem.

As grayracer said dropping the front end is the same as raising the rear and I was a little freaked when the link raised the rear almost 1 inch. I was also as shocked when I rode the bike and made a few turns. It was so much better I could not beleive it. I was having such a hard time cornering I almost did not wan't to get up to speed on the staights. I had tried everything, even had the forks raised so high they were touching the bars, revalved and changed springs until I was blue in the face but this was like magic, at least for me.
Even though I have changed the fork valving a bit I think the link would be good for anyone that rides mx.

  • flintlock28

Posted February 27, 2007 - 06:41 PM

#7

The link definately helped my 04' turn much easier.

I haven't experienced any loss of stability (at the standard 5mm mark from the fork) I raised the forks recently to the 10mm line, but I haven't been able to ride due to the weather.

It feels like the Stormlink seems to have the most effect on loamy tracks, and helps with flat, hard-packed turns, but not to the degree as on loamy tracks.

I don't know if this makes sense, but the difference seems more pronounced on loamy tracks.

  • grayracer513

Posted February 27, 2007 - 10:56 PM

#8

The thing I found in using 22.5mm clamps was not that the bike would get into head shake in the classic speed wobble kind of thing on a smooth surface. In fact, it was quite stable under those circumstances. The problem showed up whenever the front wheel struck anything off center of the front tire, or dragged in a sand rut, etc. Hitting a solid edge at an angle would violently flip the wheel toward the side of the tire that was struck, flipping it back at least as hard on the subsequent landing, and set up some really ugly tank slappers. Sand would pull it off line left or right so that it was harder to steer there as well.

  • mxracer206

Posted February 28, 2007 - 04:59 AM

#9

The thing I found in using 22.5mm clamps was not that the bike would get into head shake in the classic speed wobble kind of thing on a smooth surface. In fact, it was quite stable under those circumstances. The problem showed up whenever the front wheel struck anything off center of the front tire, or dragged in a sand rut, etc. Hitting a solid edge at an angle would violently flip the wheel toward the side of the tire that was struck, flipping it back at least as hard on the subsequent landing, and set up some really ugly tank slappers. Sand would pull it off line left or right so that it was harder to steer there as well.


Gray, I have felt the same thing but always thought the clamps were flexing. Have you put your stock clamps back on? I was thinking about going back stock to get rid of this feeling but it is working so well I almost just wan't to deal with it. I have 23mm offset and it is more of a twisting sensation. Do you think the stock clamps would still turn well with the Storm link?

  • Ga426owner

Posted February 28, 2007 - 05:46 AM

#10

No stability issues using the Stormlink for me either:thumbsup:

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  • grayracer513

Posted February 28, 2007 - 09:52 AM

#11

Gray, I have felt the same thing but always thought the clamps were flexing. Have you put your stock clamps back on?

Yup, back to stock and sold the clamps. Much happier with it.

Clamps flexing? No way.

  • YzGuy79

Posted February 28, 2007 - 06:17 PM

#12

Interesting post. I think I'm going to save my money and get a Storm link instead of clamps and bars.

When you guys are talking about moving the forks 5mm, which line is that? I have mine at the 2nd line. My forks are sticking above the top clamp a little bit. When I put the link on, should I keep them there?

  • flintlock28

Posted February 28, 2007 - 08:15 PM

#13

I've been running the Stormlink with the forks at the first line (line closest to the fork cap, 5mm). The bike definately turns better than with the stock link. I recently switched the fork tubes up to the second line (10mm), but I haven't ridden yet at this setting. If I get any headshake, I'll set the fork tube height to between the two lines, and go from there.

The 5mm height has never given even the slightest hint of headshake, but i still want to try and improve the turning....so hence the 10mm setting.

  • Nitroused383

Posted February 28, 2007 - 11:26 PM

#14

Yup, back to stock and sold the clamps. Much happier with it.

Clamps flexing? No way.


Selling the bike, got an 06 yz250, much happier with it :applause: LoL Nah j/k My 04 yz450f rails high speed corners but other than that theres not much to do. Anyone want an 04 ?

  • yz450frider15

Posted March 01, 2007 - 07:24 AM

#15

hey guys where can u get this for my 03? i looked on motosport and dennis kirk i cant find it :applause:

  • flintlock28

Posted March 01, 2007 - 11:11 AM

#16

http://stormcycles.c...n/web_store.cgi


click on "products" than click on "suspension linkage"

  • YzGuy79

Posted March 01, 2007 - 11:24 AM

#17

http://www.btosports.com/p/StormFL


$10 cheaper.

  • mxracer206

Posted March 01, 2007 - 05:41 PM

#18

Yup, back to stock and sold the clamps. Much happier with it.

Clamps flexing? No way.


Come on grayracer, let me think for just one minute that I can still ride hard enough to flex some aftermarket clamps even though we all know the
200 pounds I load on the bike has nothing to do with it.
Man you always gotta be bringin a brother down.

  • grayracer513

Posted March 01, 2007 - 07:57 PM

#19

Put a top or bottom clamp by itself in a hydraulic press and see how much it flexes. If you want to have even more fun, try to flex a completely assembled set.

It's a myth.

  • oldfordz

Posted March 01, 2007 - 09:09 PM

#20

Interesting info, and I just ordered the Storm lowering link for my 04 450f due to my massive 5'4" height, or lack of...anyway, I haven't even ridden it yet. in PA its still snowblowing time, but its too tall for me. anyone here have any info on this set up? I was also going to lower my front by raising the front tubes??? Just thought I'd ask here.





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