During one of the beginner big bike sessions there were two guys who were WAY faster than everyone in beginner and clearly did not belong there. Anyway those two guys were dicing it up a bit and came into the final turn after the whoops one guy goes high and the other just tboned him. He screamed in pain immediately and ended up being carried out. I hope no broken bones, it looked and sounded painful. As for those two in beginner :naughty: Not cool.
Broken Leg at Hindsight Firday Night??
Started by Speedracer42, Jan 06 2007 06:12 AM
23 replies to this topic
Posted 06 January 2007 - 06:12 AM
During one of the beginner big bike sessions there were two guys who were WAY faster than everyone in beginner and clearly did not belong there. Anyway those two guys were dicing it up a bit and came into the final turn after the whoops one guy goes high and the other just tboned him. He screamed in pain immediately and ended up being carried out. I hope no broken bones, it looked and sounded painful. As for those two in beginner :naughty: Not cool.
Posted 06 January 2007 - 10:03 AM
Speedracer42 said:
During one of the beginner big bike sessions there were two guys who were WAY faster than everyone in beginner and clearly did not belong there. Anyway those two guys were dicing it up a bit and came into the final turn after the whoops one guy goes high and the other just tboned him. He screamed in pain immediately and ended up being carried out. I hope no broken bones, it looked and sounded painful. As for those two in beginner :naughty: Not cool.
cherrypickers suk!!:bonk:
Posted 06 January 2007 - 12:35 PM
On a controlled track you paid for I expect people like that to get flagged off by the track workers. Someones going to get hurt and that's why there are classes to begin with.
Posted 06 January 2007 - 04:29 PM
aw yes, but remember, HindSight sometimes has a reputation of being ran by "kids" or young guys who don't really care. Not to dog on them too much but it seems like a little more professionalism (sp?) would go a long way:excuseme:
Posted 06 January 2007 - 04:49 PM
I usually go up to Hindsight once a week, but I am able to go to a weekday morning session. Usually not more than 4 or 5 bikes total. I like the way they let you just free ride and don't divide everyone up. Unless there are little bikes-then it is divided. I try to be careful not to blow by any beginners and it is cool when differant speeds of riders can work together and share the track. I am not there to "race", I am there to practice and get as much seat time as i can. I don't know how crowded the track was on Friday night, but if it was I think the guys would have divided the classes.
Posted 07 January 2007 - 10:37 AM
My 10 year old son has been on the track at Hindsight with pro racers. I think the danger could be over stated here. I was not there so I can't say. However, it is not some big danger to have mixed skill level. If a lot of people get on the track that is a bit different, the risk goes up.
Joe.........
Joe.........
Posted 07 January 2007 - 10:56 AM
The only complaint was that it was already crowded and they Int/Pro had already been split into it's own class. The guy that hit the other one was pulled to the side at the beginning of the session, but they let him keep riding.
Posted 07 January 2007 - 11:24 AM
I've been there a few times and it seems like they have some kids who either work there or hangout there that can kinda do whatever they want on the track...
Last time I was there they tried to throw all the big bikes together because they felt they had too many classes with 2 mini's and one quad(who got a session all to himself) and it got a little hairy with the beginners in the mix...I talked to the starter about seperating out the beginners from the Int/pro's again and they changed it back so at least they were responsive.
Last time I was there they tried to throw all the big bikes together because they felt they had too many classes with 2 mini's and one quad(who got a session all to himself) and it got a little hairy with the beginners in the mix...I talked to the starter about seperating out the beginners from the Int/pro's again and they changed it back so at least they were responsive.
Posted 07 January 2007 - 01:07 PM
JoeMcLaughlin said:
My 10 year old son has been on the track at Hindsight with pro racers. I think the danger could be over stated here. I was not there so I can't say. However, it is not some big danger to have mixed skill level. If a lot of people get on the track that is a bit different, the risk goes up.
Joe.........
Joe.........
I disagree because i have seen many a close call or many a nasty instance where a "pro" jumped and the novice did not and people get jumped on. The other issue is a lot of novices don't understand to hold a line (or can't) and change sides of the track, another good opportunity to get jumped on. Usually with people the same kill level and understanding mix a lot easier and lesson those chances.
At places like Washougal this is not really an issue, indoor I feel it is much more of an issue. "pros" can come around a corner and seat bounce a jump before they even see the kid between the double/triple and once your in the air your pretty limited how much direction chance can happen to avoid someone. I was at Clark county one day and watch this happen over and over.
Posted 07 January 2007 - 02:07 PM
Ride said:
I disagree because i have seen many a close call or many a nasty instance where a "pro" jumped and the novice did not and people get jumped on. The other issue is a lot of novices don't understand to hold a line (or can't) and change sides of the track, another good opportunity to get jumped on. Usually with people the same kill level and understanding mix a lot easier and lesson those chances.
At places like Washougal this is not really an issue, indoor I feel it is much more of an issue. "pros" can come around a corner and seat bounce a jump before they even see the kid between the double/triple and once your in the air your pretty limited how much direction chance can happen to avoid someone. I was at Clark county one day and watch this happen over and over.
At places like Washougal this is not really an issue, indoor I feel it is much more of an issue. "pros" can come around a corner and seat bounce a jump before they even see the kid between the double/triple and once your in the air your pretty limited how much direction chance can happen to avoid someone. I was at Clark county one day and watch this happen over and over.
Joe.......
Posted 07 January 2007 - 04:58 PM
it always sucks when a rider gets hurt and the establisment is to blame. at least hindsite makes them sign a waiver and strap on a helmet.anything can happen in the beginner class.
Posted 07 January 2007 - 09:28 PM
I was not bashing Hindsight just making a point about all indoor tracks.
Posted 07 January 2007 - 10:15 PM
Ride said:
I was not bashing Hindsight just making a point about all indoor tracks.
Joe.........
Posted 07 January 2007 - 10:31 PM
I made the mistake of signing up for JR class and before realizing that Jr's run w/beginners at Hindsight. It got totally annoying when slower riders would change lines trying to get out of the way, but usually just ending up right in front of you as a pass was attempted. A friendly piece of advice if your being over taken...just hold your line and the faster rider will find a way around. I just moved up to Int/Pro after 2 sessions. On a positive note, I found the layout (on Sunday night) to be one of the best ever!! Kudos Hindsight!
Posted 07 January 2007 - 11:18 PM
Pitchman said:
IA friendly piece of advice if your being over taken...just hold your line and the faster rider will find a way around.
exactly :thumbsup:
Posted 07 January 2007 - 11:22 PM
Ride said:
At places like Washougal this is not really an issue, indoor I feel it is much more of an issue. "pros" can come around a corner and seat bounce a jump before they even see the kid between the double/triple and once your in the air your pretty limited how much direction chance can happen to avoid someone.
Yes i just quoted myself. :crazy:
I was just laughing at my sentence and realizing I'm the 42 YO "kid" getting jump "on" :>)
Well not quite but i sometime feel that way. Some of these "kids" can freaking huck it. Mountain view and Riverdale get some jumpin fools :thumbsup:
Posted 08 January 2007 - 12:42 AM
Ride said:
I disagree because i have seen many a close call or many a nasty instance where a "pro" jumped and the novice did not and people get jumped on. The other issue is a lot of novices don't understand to hold a line (or can't) and change sides of the track, another good opportunity to get jumped on. Usually with people the same kill level and understanding mix a lot easier and lesson those chances.
At places like Washougal this is not really an issue, indoor I feel it is much more of an issue. "pros" can come around a corner and seat bounce a jump before they even see the kid between the double/triple and once your in the air your pretty limited how much direction chance can happen to avoid someone. I was at Clark county one day and watch this happen over and over.
At places like Washougal this is not really an issue, indoor I feel it is much more of an issue. "pros" can come around a corner and seat bounce a jump before they even see the kid between the double/triple and once your in the air your pretty limited how much direction chance can happen to avoid someone. I was at Clark county one day and watch this happen over and over.
I too agree with you-especially indoors-too tight for comfort when skill levels get mixed together and it's busy. Many times indoor tracks are too tight to leave an "out" if things get dicey.
When I was younger (damn I'm getting old) the district I was in required an "A", "B" or "C" 2 inches tall at the end of your # to denote what class you were in (help prevent sandbaggers). It gets mighty scary being a 125 C rider, and having 250 A's sneaking onto a track with you when it's busy. There were many days I packed up and went home early for safety's sake, not that I was done.
Good track flaggers and oversight makes a big difference!
Posted 08 January 2007 - 06:28 AM
Pitchman said:
I made the mistake of signing up for JR class and before realizing that Jr's run w/beginners at Hindsight. It got totally annoying when slower riders would change lines trying to get out of the way, but usually just ending up right in front of you as a pass was attempted. A friendly piece of advice if your being over taken...just hold your line and the faster rider will find a way around. I just moved up to Int/Pro after 2 sessions. On a positive note, I found the layout (on Sunday night) to be one of the best ever!! Kudos Hindsight!
Joe when was the last time you were there? I am curious if it changed from when I was there Friday. It has been that layout for the last few weeks.
