04 yz450 throttle position sensor unplug it or not


15 replies to this topic
  • dwnlowx

Posted December 01, 2006 - 09:24 PM

#1

i have a 04 yz 450 and i was wondering if i should unplug it or not ive seen some people doing this saying that it helps any input thanks

  • dwnlowx

Posted December 02, 2006 - 05:27 PM

#2

hello any body there

  • martybec

Posted December 02, 2006 - 09:52 PM

#3

I woulnt unplug it. Why would you feel you need to?

  • dwnlowx

Posted December 03, 2006 - 12:37 AM

#4

Well Ive Seen People Doing It On Alot On The Yz450f O6 And 07 So Someone Should Kno

  • aford541

Posted December 03, 2006 - 08:52 PM

#5

http://www.thumperta...2&highlight=tps

  • dwnlowx

Posted December 06, 2006 - 02:59 PM

#6

evey body should be doing this mod it really helps alot you will feel the difference just ride how your bike is now and then unplug the sensor after you ride it for a while with it pluged in and you will see the difference

  • NM_KDX200

Posted December 07, 2006 - 09:04 AM

#7

Can you just unplug/plug the sensor w/out messing something up? I recall seeing something in the manual about not unscrewing the sensor....

  • BDOG510

Posted December 07, 2006 - 04:49 PM

#8

You guys would mess up a wet dream. Ride the damn thing man.

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  • mxracer206

Posted December 07, 2006 - 04:54 PM

#9

You guys would mess up a wet dream. Ride the damn thing man.


Second that, not many people can handle all the power a 450 has for more than a few laps anyway.

  • fowler175

Posted December 07, 2006 - 06:50 PM

#10

I recall reading that by unplugging it, you would get a slightly smoother transition from low to mid, but no real "gains". I tried unplugging mine, but didn't really notice a difference. My bike is an 04' yzf 450 also.

  • dwnlowx

Posted December 07, 2006 - 09:30 PM

#11

:worthy: it really helps , ride your bike with it pluged in then after half of the day unplug it and you will notice the difference for sure that way

  • mxracer206

Posted December 07, 2006 - 09:57 PM

#12

:worthy: it really helps , ride your bike with it pluged in then after half of the day unplug it and you will notice the difference for sure that way


Then ride it on a dry slick track and check lap times, I bet they are faster with it plugged in. I doubt the factory invested money in this technology without a lot of testing. It makes the bike more tractable and easier to ride for a whole moto.

  • NM_KDX200

Posted December 08, 2006 - 07:48 AM

#13

Then ride it on a dry slick track and check lap times,


I will do that today or tomorrow if someone will kindly answer my question- just plug it and unplug it? Won't mess anything up in between?

  • grayracer513

Posted December 08, 2006 - 10:23 AM

#14

I will do that today or tomorrow if someone will kindly answer my question- just plug it and unplug it? Won't mess anything up in between?

Read:

http://www.thumperta...906#post3762906

  • NM_KDX200

Posted December 08, 2006 - 11:27 AM

#15

Read:
http://www.thumperta...906#post3762906


I'd already read that.

What the manual was referring to was removing the sensor where it attaches to the carb body. So, I didn't do that. I just unplugged the wires where they're zip-tied to the frame.

I didn't like it. It smoothed out the powerband, but it seemed to do so by taking away the initial low-end hit. I took the Q2 silencer off, put the stock one back on, rode the bike around my turning-practice track (flat, but lots of different turns) and was happy again that the low-end kick was back. Then I disconnected the TPS and rode again. It was definitely smoother down low but felt very much like the Q2- flat and dull, like my TTR-125 instead of a YZ450F. Mid-range was fine but in my informal roll-on wheelie-test, with TPS, the bike immediately starts lifting the front wheel until about 1/3 throttle, settles it back down a little, and then really lifts it past 1/2 throttle. With the TPS disconnected, it didn't wheelie at all until 1/2 throttle or so and by then, my ground speed was too much. No TPS feels like an XR250. Bleah. I re-connected the TPS and the power was immediately back again.

This makes a really big difference in, say, my whoop section. With TPS connected, I can come out of the corner low in 3rd and immediately lift the front wheel over the first 4 whoops in my 8 whoop section. I let the rear settle into the next one, give it a little gas, and POP!, I'm out of the whole section in basically 2 consecutive wheelies. With TPS dis-connected, I can't do that and it's much harder to get the speed and power immediately after the corner.

So, I'm back to stock again- stock silencer, TPS connected. It's good to know what the TPS does, though. On a really slick course, I might disconnect it, but if there's any kind of traction, I'm leaving it alone.

  • grayracer513

Posted December 08, 2006 - 01:49 PM

#16

I've never been entirely certain why the guys who wrote the manuals have their knickers in such a knot over removing the TPS. It can be re-installed and adjusted to a precise point using a volt meter, as the manual shows. Removing it would leave an open hole in the carb body, though.

Mine is connected. The effect that disconnecting it has on each different year model will vary, too depending on how each engine reacts to being converted to a 2D ignition map. Your description of how your '04 runs with it unhooked does not really surprise me.





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