Californians - HELP!
Posted December 27, 2001 - 08:08 PM
So now I'm trying to deal with the realization that I won't be allowed to ride my great bike in the summer. My questions are; What do the rest of you red sticker bike owners do during the forbidden season? Are there any off-road riding areas that are open year-round to all bikes? What will happen to me if I'm caught riding off-season? Finally, has anyone ever been cited for a red sticker violation?
I appreciate all the help and insight afforded to me by this forum. Thanks everyone.
Posted December 28, 2001 - 12:26 PM
Posted December 28, 2001 - 12:36 PM
Posted December 28, 2001 - 01:22 PM
I heard that you can play dumb and just go to the dmv and tell them that you lost your green sticker and see what they give you...some have said they got green that way.
The only other way I know is really tedious and expensive...it is a real scam involving registering the bike out of state and then making it street legal and then bringing it back to CA as a street legal bike. (this has not been proven but some are in the process of trying this.) I won't recommend any such subversive tactics but I will say this...this law is garbage and not worth the paper it's written on.
I'm all for protecting the environment but let's start with the government owned deisel engines, then get into the trucking industry, and then there's trains, etc...
My little one piston thumper and I will burn about 4 gallons on a big day. If I decide to take a drive to the coast because my red sticker won't get me into the park...I'll burn 20 gallons of fuel. You tell me which activity should be controlled! Maybe we should outlaw all recreational driving during the summer.
Don't even get me started on lawn mowers, weed whackers, gas powered blowers, chain saws, chippers, argh!!
Woah, I guess I'm venting
Good luck on the red/green thing...let us know how it works out.
Posted December 28, 2001 - 01:26 PM
We have nothing like it in the UK and I cannot work out what it is!
Posted December 28, 2001 - 01:52 PM
Here is a link to the BS propaganda web site the California Air Resources Board made for us stupid people that hate the environment. They are regulating us to death over here. Green stickers are for motorcycles that do not pollute too much, red stickers are for bad motorcycles. At first, the red sticker was to be for two-stroke motorcycles only, but what the heck, red stickers for everyone! It is a bunch of crap. This is the land of the free? Ha!
eBayThumper, you forgot about the Space Shuttle. I wonder if they are planning on fitting that baby up with a catalectic converter any time soon.
Posted December 28, 2001 - 03:47 PM
Lighten Up Big Guy! My comment was meant in joking way. However, as I ride in the desert most of the time, you can usually spot a ranger truck from a distance and unless you are really close to him or stop to discuss the weather, you have a really good chance of going unnoticed while 'in the middle of nowhere'
Posted December 28, 2001 - 09:15 PM
Some good news! Mountain areas in Ca are many times still open in summer to red sticker bikes. Kennedy Meadows has been an open area in summer. There are also some areas in the western Sierras above Fresno, etc. CARB website has closures posted, but I forget the URL. Anyone have this info handy?
Posted December 29, 2001 - 08:08 AM
Posted December 29, 2001 - 12:50 PM
I am really glad that we don't have anything like that over here, well not yet anyway!