What's wrong with Yamalube?


12 replies to this topic
  • DesertRacer2

Posted November 27, 2006 - 12:11 PM

#1

I had a great weekend on my 07 YZ450F. I am going to do my first oil change this weekend. I have read on this forum that a lot of people don't recommend Yamalube? How come? What oil do you guys recommend?

  • never59

Posted November 27, 2006 - 12:21 PM

#2

rather than start another oil debate your best bet is to do a search for the word oil and you will find enough information on oil to put you to sleep ten times over.

  • DesertRacer2

Posted November 27, 2006 - 12:35 PM

#3

Sounds good, thanks!

  • DrThumper

Posted November 27, 2006 - 01:38 PM

#4

Too much $$$$ for the "Yamaha" label.
I use Mobil 1 fully synthetic. The names are constantly changing (Truck/SUV, Extended Life, Etc)....just as long as the little white circle on the back does not say "Energy Conserving" on the bottom 1/2. "Energy Conserving" oils have additives in them that ruins your clutch.

  • KJ790

Posted November 27, 2006 - 05:05 PM

#5

I have used yamalube for years with no problems whatsoever. It is expensive, but I get it pretty cheap, and it has worked great for me for years.

  • grayracer513

Posted November 27, 2006 - 05:54 PM

#6

It doesn't stay in grade well, and in general doesn't perform well in several critical lab tests vs. other oils or testing standards for an oil of its type and price. It also has too little of the zinc/phosphorus anti-wear additives for my taste. Some have cured clutch drag and/or chatter issues by switching away from it.

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  • Mikeee P

Posted November 28, 2006 - 12:23 AM

#7

Here's a thought - who makes Yamaha's oil? Who makes Honda's oil? Who makes Kawasaki or Suzuki or KTM's oil?

None of the companies are oil manufactures, so they're actually buying someone elses oil and putting their label on it.

I used to work for a manufacture - and the Kendall, Quaker State and other trucks would bring 55 gallon drums for us to test. Then the company would check the parts, see what looked good for wear and compare prices and then slap a label on whomever gave them the best deal and seemed semi reliable.

Mike

  • yz007f

Posted November 28, 2006 - 05:09 AM

#8

The only thing I would like to say is that Yamaha tests all there motors and everything on Yamalube. You have to remember YZF's spin 12000 rpm a car motor spins 2-6. Yeah other oils might work but in the long run will they? Yamaha knows what works and what doesn't. I have been running the Yamaha 4-strokes since the 400 days and never had a problem with the Yamalube with the motor or clutches even tho I change my oil after every ride. I have seen it alot at the track with guys running different oils and having clutch problems which we know on the forum.

just my 2 cents
yz007f

  • Ga426owner

Posted November 28, 2006 - 05:37 AM

#9

Yamalube works fine...it is expensive. There are other better choices out there that are less money and in my case help the shifting.

  • 30-A rider

Posted November 28, 2006 - 09:44 AM

#10

Yamalube works fine...it is expensive. There are other better choices out there that are less money and in my case help the shifting.


Exactly. couldnt have said it better myself.

For 2 stroke use..I use Yamalube on my GP1200 which is oil injected and found nothing to be better and run cleaner IMO..But on motor oil...its just Havoline or something like that with Yamaha Label on it. Eric Gorr had a great oild article..boring reading, very technical, very informative....end result was best bang for the buck..Mobil 1. I think it was 15/50 in the red cap.

  • Vibeguy

Posted November 28, 2006 - 09:46 AM

#11

I had a great weekend on my 07 YZ450F. I am going to do my first oil change this weekend. I have read on this forum that a lot of people don't recommend Yamalube? How come? What oil do you guys recommend?


Yamalube is not a bad oil it's just that there are much better lubricants on the market for the same amount of money. I can get a full synthetic for the same price as Yamalube and get it on every street corner....well almost.

Mobil 1 15w-50 Gold Cap and Shell Rotella come to mind.

  • grayracer513

Posted November 28, 2006 - 09:51 AM

#12

Eric Gorr had a great oild article..boring reading, very technical, very informative....end result was best bang for the buck..Mobil 1. I think it was 15/50 in the red cap.

The problem there is that that particular oil is no longer sold. Mobil retooled their M1 lineup, and the old Red Cap became the current Gold Cap (Extended Performance). The Red Cap oils are cheap dino stuff now. When it was first introduced, it was essentially the same thing in a new package, but there were plans to reformulate it to lower the zinc/phosphorus content, so that it would be more in compliance with EPA regs for automotive use. Good article on the technical merits, to be sure, but dated as to product recommendations.

M1 EP is was a good oil when I last looked at it, though.

  • YZ426F Rider

Posted November 28, 2006 - 10:16 AM

#13

I use Rotella 15W - 40 in the white jug. I have been using it for quite a while and have noticed better shifting/clutch performance than I get with some other more expensive oils. The Rotella is like $8.88/gallon at Walmart.

I just installed a Rekluse on my bike and I was happily surprised to see that Rekluse recommends using Rotella with their clutches....for whatever that's worth.





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