'07 XRL and Chain.


20 replies to this topic
  • squatpuke

Posted November 16, 2006 - 10:59 AM

#1

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Ok, I noticed after my 1st few milew that my chain seems VERY loose...(It must have about 2-3" of play).

What bugs me is why didn't the dealer catch this issue, and why should it be so loose if the bike is brand new. I didn't check at the shop cause of my noobness and shop is 150 miles away. Seems a new chain should fit perfect. Doesn't it just "stretch" after many miles of riding?

I just finished my first 100 miles on the bike and this weekend will do my first oil/filter change...and I thought I'd better tighten this chain up before I eat away my sprahkets.

The chain tensors dealies are in the "all the way forward" position...I wouldn't think I'd have to adjust them on such a new bike.

  • TDC71

Posted November 16, 2006 - 12:01 PM

#2

MY CHAIN ON MY 06 650L STRETCHED FOR ABOUT 500 MILES, STRETCHED MORE AFTER GUNNING IT ALOT.HASNT STRETCHED HARDLY AT ALL AFTER THAT AND I HAVE 5K ON IT NOW SO WHAT YOU ARE EXPERIENCING IS NORMAL FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN
tODD

  • Motosprtman

Posted November 16, 2006 - 12:02 PM

#3

dependent upon how the bike was ridden in those fiorst 100 miles, it can and will stretch.

  • wwjam

Posted November 18, 2006 - 03:42 AM

#4

My 07 came the exact same way. The chain was way too loose and the adjustment cam was also at the minimum. Adjusted cam to position #25 and all is well.

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Ok, I noticed after my 1st few milew that my chain seems VERY loose...(It must have about 2-3" of play).

What bugs me is why didn't the dealer catch this issue, and why should it be so loose if the bike is brand new. I didn't check at the shop cause of my noobness and shop is 150 miles away. Seems a new chain should fit perfect. Doesn't it just "stretch" after many miles of riding?

I just finished my first 100 miles on the bike and this weekend will do my first oil/filter change...and I thought I'd better tighten this chain up before I eat away my sprahkets.

The chain tensors dealies are in the "all the way forward" position...I wouldn't think I'd have to adjust them on such a new bike.



  • Boston Mangler

Posted November 18, 2006 - 05:32 AM

#5

Mine started off perfect but stretched A LOT on the first 500 miles!

Hasnt been stretching since!

  • HondaXR650L

Posted November 18, 2006 - 09:28 PM

#6

My stock chain lasted around 15,000 miles. So when yours goes bad then switch to the DID X-Ring chain even with the Edelbrock on it the chain has not really streached sence I got it. NO this is not a paid endorsement, but I like it any way.

  • goblin127

Posted November 19, 2006 - 01:31 PM

#7

Mine started off perfect but stretched A LOT on the first 500 miles!

Hasnt been stretching since!


The chain is doing what it's supposed to do.

  • Boston Mangler

Posted November 19, 2006 - 03:18 PM

#8

The chain is doing what it's supposed to do.


??? Care to elaborate?

  • LotsOfBikes

Posted November 20, 2006 - 12:16 AM

#9

Back in 1996 when I purchased my 1995 XR650L, the chain was junk, or so I thought. I did not lubricate it properly, so it elongated rapidly. It was my First dirtbike in 14 years.

Consequently, that chain broke within 5 months of motorcycle purchase. Elongated far beyond tollerance.

Since that time, with experience and many races under my belt, I learned many things. One of which was how to properly lubricate a chain.

The location that you need to apply lubrication to an O-ring chain is the area that is not protected by the o-rings. That area is underneath the individual rollers that contact the valleys of the sprocket teeth. If you get adequate lubrication between the rollers and their underlying pins that they have contact with, there is no reason that you should not get one full year of adjustment free chain life from an O-Ring chain.

  • Adamsvh67

Posted November 20, 2006 - 03:54 PM

#10

Mine was the exact same way. Loose as hell at first, and stretched quite a bit. Have adjusted 2or 3 times. I think it's done stretchin' now, but I wouldn't guarantee it! I just keep checkin' and adjustin'...

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  • cleonard

Posted November 20, 2006 - 05:01 PM

#11

The chains don't really stretch. With a non ring type chain, the wear happes fast. The crud grinds away at the metal of the chain and the resulting play makes the chain longer. This is incorrectly labeled "chain stretch," when it is really chain wear. Most ring type chains get a little looser in the first few rides. The lube moves around inside the links and the metal parts move into the final positions. This is normal. After this a sealed ringed chain should not require an adjunstment for a long time. Eventually crud finds it way into a ringed chain and it starts to wear requiring adjustment.

  • Adamsvh67

Posted November 20, 2006 - 05:55 PM

#12

Well said.
I did experience what I'd consider above average initial wear with this chain.
Brings me to my next question. Surely you guys have a preference on chain lube. Not sure I like the PJ1 Blue label I'm using. Sticky as hell...

  • TDC71

Posted November 21, 2006 - 08:01 AM

#13

Ditto On The Pj-1

Todd

  • cleonard

Posted November 21, 2006 - 08:47 AM

#14

Well said.
I did experience what I'd consider above average initial wear with this chain.
Brings me to my next question. Surely you guys have a preference on chain lube. Not sure I like the PJ1 Blue label I'm using. Sticky as hell...


Talk about a loaded question. Everyone has a different take on this question. Here's mine.

I don't like the oily lubes, like the PJ1 blue, for ring style chains. I either use something really light such as WD40 or a chain wax. About all you need to do is prevent rusting as the lube is inside the rings. All oily products do is attract dirt and dirt is the enemy of chains. The best thing about the ringed chains is that they will last a long time no matter what you use on them.

  • XR650L_Dave

Posted November 21, 2006 - 09:19 AM

#15

Honda red can.

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  • Adamsvh67

Posted November 21, 2006 - 02:11 PM

#16

Thanks Dave
I'd heard Red can was good stuff. Honda recommends 90W. Couldn't bring myself to pour that nasty sh*t all over my bike.
Buddy gave me the can of PJ1. Seems okay, but sooo sticky.
Maybe I'll get a can o' the red stuff.
AV

  • squatpuke

Posted November 21, 2006 - 04:49 PM

#17

HOw do you get all the crap off the back sproket after using PJ1 Blue?

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That is, using a degreaser would probably degrease the chain as well...

  • wheelnut46

Posted November 21, 2006 - 08:25 PM

#18

I put the gear oil in an oil can and lube both sides of the chain as it sits on the rear sprocket. The oil can controls the flow better than the pointy tip of the gear lube bottle. I use a scrap piece of plywood under the chain in case it drips. It doesnt drip much because I only use a little.:p
When I wash my bike after a ride I spray any oily spots with Simple Green. As a degreaser it works really well. I've even used it to clean oil off my driveway.:cheers:

  • frog13

Posted April 07, 2007 - 07:30 PM

#19

I think the new chain is a 110 link chain?---possibly they put "too long" of a chain during assembly?

  • hondaxrl650

Posted April 09, 2007 - 02:22 PM

#20

The same thing happened to my 07 650l . It was real loose within the first 100 miles adjusted it to about 25 and it has been fine since .( got about 1000 miles on it now ) . :thumbsup: on





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