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  • RC30

Posted January 15, 2007 - 10:34 AM


The battle of the weight.......TIME OUT

Dynanometer diagrams

Legend:

Black curves: Stock configuration (uncorked).

[COLOR="Green"]Green curves:[/COLOR] FMF PowerBomb header pipe + stock silencer.

[COLOR="Blue"]Blue curves:[/COLOR] FMF PowerBomb + G.P.R. silencer.

[COLOR="Cyan"]Light blue:[/COLOR] FMF PowerBomb + G.P.R. + K&N filter + Keihin FCR carburettor.

Power diagram at the rear wheel:
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Torque diagram at the rear wheel:
Posted Image


END OF TIME OUT

  • RC30

Posted January 16, 2007 - 09:39 AM


The battle of the weight.......#51

Posted Image Stock 1.068 lbs

Right passenger peg, removed.

Weight [COLOR="green"]-1.068 lbs[/COLOR] :lol:

Total dry weight (verified) stock 308.37 lbs

After step #51........................296.499 lbs .............-11.871 lbs

  • RC30

Posted January 17, 2007 - 09:47 AM


The battle of the weight.......#52

Posted Image Stock 1.546 lbs

Left passenger peg, removed.

Weight [COLOR="green"]-1.546 lbs[/COLOR] :lol:

Total dry weight (verified) stock 308.37 lbs

After step #52........................294.953 lbs .............-13.417 lbs

  • rebelventurer

Posted January 17, 2007 - 04:47 PM


Still not under 290 lbs whats up I though you were going to be 275 lbs by now!
Almost 48 hp not bad! Is that 73.9 ft lbs of torque? what is NM?

  • jetfuel

Posted January 17, 2007 - 05:10 PM


NM is newton meters 73.9 N.M = 54.5 ft.lbs.

  • pburke

Posted January 17, 2007 - 05:13 PM


Left passenger peg, removed.


hey I want them!

  • drop

Posted January 17, 2007 - 06:03 PM


Those dyno charts are nice. The aftermarket header with stock muffler adds nothing. The G.P.R. (?) pipe helps out the top end nicely but doesn't add anything down low. The carb and airfilter really add a lot probably mainly from the carb upgrade. How does the edelbrock compare to this?

  • FOUR STOKED

Posted January 17, 2007 - 07:38 PM


RC30 you are an inspiration to all of us. This thread makes me want to go work on my bikes right now:applause: :lol: :confused: :crazy: :lol::applause: ;) :worthy: :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • RC30

Posted January 18, 2007 - 09:49 AM


Wow, how many answers!

I will reply to you later :lol: (I'm still trying to learn your language.........:confused:)

Now.....another little step..........

  • RC30

Posted January 18, 2007 - 09:53 AM


The battle of the weight.......#53

Posted Image Stock 0.158 lbs

Left handguard, removed.

Weight [COLOR="green"]-0.158 lbs[/COLOR] :lol:

Total dry weight (verified) stock 308.37 lbs

After step #53........................294.795 lbs .............-13.575 lbs

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  • RC30

Posted January 19, 2007 - 09:28 AM


The battle of the weight.......#54

Posted Image Stock 0.174 lbs

Right handguard, removed.

Weight [COLOR="green"]-0.174 lbs[/COLOR] :lol:

Total dry weight (verified) stock 308.37 lbs

After step #54........................294.621 lbs .............-13.749 lbs

  • rebelventurer

Posted January 19, 2007 - 02:19 PM


NM is newton meters 73.9 N.M = 54.5 ft.lbs.


Newton meters, is that from the guy who got hit in the head with an apple?
54.5 ft lbs not bad for a stock motor!

When are you going to start the motor mods?
I bet there is some internal parts that can be replaced with lighter ones, say titanium valves and valve springs? Titaniun gearsets for the tranny, clutch basket, pressure plate, etc?
Have you found titanium bolt kits yet? Axles and swingarm pivot bolt would seem to be the heaviest bolts on the bike.

  • RC30

Posted January 20, 2007 - 10:57 AM


The battle of the weight.......#55

Posted Image Stock 0.471 lbs

Radiator guards, removed.

Weight [COLOR="green"]-0.471 lbs[/COLOR] :lol:

Total dry weight (verified) stock 308.37 lbs

After step #55........................294.15 lbs .............-14.22 lbs

  • RC30

Posted January 20, 2007 - 03:59 PM


Still not under 290 lbs whats up I though you were going to be 275 lbs by now!

You must wait still about 20/25 little steps and then........:worthy: (whatever 275 are very few pounds......)

Almost 48 hp not bad! Is that 73.9 ft lbs of torque? what is NM?

jetfuel answered you...........

NM is newton meters 73.9 N.M = 54.5 ft.lbs.


Left passenger peg, removed.



hey I want them!

;) You can contact www.dallarahonda.com for the spare parts..........

Those dyno charts are nice. The aftermarket header with stock muffler adds nothing. The G.P.R. (?) pipe helps out the top end nicely but doesn't add anything down low. The carb and airfilter really add a lot probably mainly from the carb upgrade. How does the edelbrock compare to this?

When I tested my bike, engine and chain had 2100miles, new rear tire, and for black,blue and green curves, unclean stock air filter :crazy:.

During the second and third test (blue and green curves) I used the stock setting carb.

Sincerely only the light-blue curve (complete configuration) was learn with a new and clean air-filter and right setting jets.

G.P.R. see www.gpr.it

RC30 you are an inspiration to all of us. This thread makes me want to go work on my bikes right now

Happy to like to you. :lol:

Newton meters, is that from the guy who got hit in the head with an apple?
54.5 ft lbs not bad for a stock motor!

Yes, but only Newton, meters is a unit of measure.........:confused:

When are you going to start the motor mods?
I bet there is some internal parts that can be replaced with lighter ones, say titanium valves and valve springs? Titaniun gearsets for the tranny, clutch basket, pressure plate, etc?
Have you found titanium bolt kits yet? Axles and swingarm pivot bolt would seem to be the heaviest bolts on the bike.

There are many things which I can do to my engine, that you have pointed to me, the turning of the fly-wheel and the lightening of the crank-shaft for example, but I live and drive in a place where there are many winding streets and then I need of an engine with a great torque in a low revs.

All those mods makes the engine adapt to high revs and I can’t use them.

However I promise to myself to don’t modify the engine (intake and exhaust except) because I’m very satisfied to his stock reliability and because my primary target was the maximum reduction of the weight, and all money that I can save to the engine I can spend to the rest.

I saw the link that you pointed me, they are very, very interesting and then I have decide to buy some of titanium bolts, but I’ll buy its from mr. Poggipolini (www.poggipolini.it) is more simple for me.


See you later Piero


P.S. I still apologize for my bad english :lol:

  • RC30

Posted January 21, 2007 - 09:47 AM


The battle of the weight.......#56

Posted Image Stock 0.356 lbs

Posted Image Special 0.4 lbs

Left radiator scoop, Ufo Plast drilled (how many holes?.....)

Weight [COLOR="red"]+0.044 lbs[/COLOR] :lol:

Total dry weight (verified) stock 308.37 lbs [COLOR="Red"]PROVISIONAL[/COLOR]

After step #56........................294.194 lbs .............-14.176 lbs

  • RC30

Posted January 22, 2007 - 09:51 AM


The battle of the weight.......#57

Posted Image Stock 0.365 lbs

Posted Image Special 0.396 lbs

Right radiator scoop, Ufo Plast drilled.

Weight [COLOR="red"]+0.031 lbs[/COLOR] :lol:

Total dry weight (verified) stock 308.37 lbs [COLOR="Red"]PROVISIONAL[/COLOR]

After step #57........................294.225 lbs .............-14.145 lbs

  • blood_ox

Posted January 23, 2007 - 02:33 AM


where I can buy the passenger pegs? they are original of Honda? cost....

Thank you from spain. blood_ox@yahoo.es

  • uncleroby

Posted January 23, 2007 - 04:31 AM


where I can buy the passenger pegs? they are original of Honda? cost....

Thank you from spain. blood_ox@yahoo.es


You may try to ask to the Italian importer, Mr Dallara (www.dallarahonda.com).

But what he sells it is not cheap...

  • RC30

Posted January 23, 2007 - 04:40 PM


The battle of the weight.......#58

Posted Image Stock 1.11 lbs

Skid plate, removed.

Weight [COLOR="green"]-1.11 lbs[/COLOR] :lol:

Total dry weight (verified) stock 308.37 lbs

After step #58........................293.115 lbs .............-15.255 lbs

  • trailsurfer

Posted January 23, 2007 - 04:50 PM


I have been watching this thread with some interest but now you have lost me, do you intend to use this bike to ride off-road as it was intended and as most of us do or is this some kind of science project? No offense intended, but when you start taking off vital body parts etc. I'm not sure what the point is any longer.





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