Steel Framed Purists Unite!...A bit of an editorial

[kcolyar]

I live in Moab, and would be willing to help plan, coordinate any type of trip you guys want. There are alot of us locals here, who would love to meet and ride with new people. Plus, we know most of the good trails. Any ways, my two cents.

[kcolyar]

Oh yeah, this site is the best entertainment around. I appreciate all the info I get when I need help ( acouple of times) and the rest of the time its fun reading all the useless speculation over things that hardly matter. My 03 is way more bike than I can handle in most situations. In fast sand washes its great, on the motocross track, I wish I would have dialed in the suspension a little better, and in the mountains its a beast. What more can you wish for.

[Fullbore4]

I live in Moab, and would be willing to help plan, coordinate any type of trip you guys want. There are alot of us locals here, who would love to meet and ride with new people. Plus, we know most of the good trails. Any ways, my two cents.

Wow! What a kick ass place to live for the dirt rider. I'll keep your name handy. I've always wanted to ride there.

[bullybull9]

I have owned about 10 different motorcycles,, never realy worked on them that much,, just the basic's.

But from the Harleys to the Kawi, susuki, yamaha, and to my 9 foot long big dog chopper,, I have rode them all in different ways and at different times in my life,, weather its steel , or aluminum frame , jap or american made ,, put me on 2 wheels going up a hill or around a turn ,, 100 down the high way or 5mph thur 2 feet of mudd, I love ridding motorcycles and I'm sure everyone in TT does as well ,, alot of smart people offer their advise to help others ,, so take just a little of my advise ,, hop on your 2 wheels crack the throttle pop the clutch and leave your worries behind.

[GOorangeNEVERgoBACK]

I have owned about 10 different motorcycles,, never realy worked on them that much,, just the basic's.

But from the Harleys to the Kawi, susuki, yamaha, and to my 9 foot long big dog chopper,, I have rode them all in different ways and at different times in my life,, weather its steel , or aluminum frame , jap or american made ,, put me on 2 wheels going up a hill or around a turn ,, 100 down the high way or 5mph thur 2 feet of mudd, I love ridding motorcycles and I'm sure everyone in TT does as well ,, alot of smart people offer their advise to help others ,, so take just a little of my advise ,, hop on your 2 wheels crack the throttle pop the clutch and leave your worries behind.

exactly

[Whoya]

Thirteen pages and six months argueing over the same bike......

[clark4131]

Did I get some mileage out of this, or what??...SC

[bullybull9]

Ya like in that movie (stand buy me) where lard ass get everyone to throw up,,, lol

[clark4131]

Ya like in that movie (stand buy me) where lard ass get everyone to throw up,,, lol

Are you calling me fat? ...SC

[bullybull9]

No,, to calling you fat ,, have no idea what you look like,, and the movie wasn't stand buy me .. can't remember what it was .

[dirtbeater]

Wow, yall in the 450 forums are crazy. I came over from the 250 to ask a question, saw the post and after three hours of reading this insainly funny thread I thought wow I could have done something good with this time, like gone ridding. I am speachless:confused:

[clark4131]

No,, to calling you fat ,, have no idea what you look like,, and the movie wasn't stand buy me .. can't remember what it was .

You were right the first time, it was Stand By Me, with the kid from Star Trek TNG. It was originally a Stephen King short story...BTW, since I blew out my back, I did get fat!!! I had to increase my preload 'cuz I screwed up my sag!!!?...SC

[boer]

Did I get some mileage out of this, or what??...SC

Yup, the fact is Yamaha is using steel framed 2006 WR's in the 2007 Dakar:worthy:

[Indy_WR450]

Yeah give me a Chrome Moly perimeter frame that only weighs 2 lbs more over aluminum and that would be perfect for off roading.?

[tommy06]

i'm sorry to say this - but this is typical american -

1) i noticed, if someone on the US forums buys a new bike, they put 2 tons of aftermarket-"shit" on it before they even drive the damn thing + "they" always have to buy the newest bikes, like every 2 years they buy a new one.

In EU this is different - one buys a new bike, doesn't modify it, rides it till something brakes off and replaces it by aftermarkt parts, then ride the hell out of the standard - not less brakable then a supermodified - bike untill, after a year of 6 wants something different.

+ they call it "a project", i call my bike "my bike" and bike stands for a motorcycle that rides, and not one that shines in the garage and on pictures.

2) forums are very attractive to newbies, so questions will keep repeating themselves, and stupid questions will keep beeing posted while new newbies will keep registering.

3) forums are there to ask questions when one is in trouble - you can't stop that

[clark4131]

So let me get this straight...You're not really addressing the main crux of the thread, but rather engaging in a "European riders are better than U.S. riders" type of diatribe based on the fact that folks from the U.S. do things a little differently than the rest of the world. Well, I'd like to be the first on the board to thank you for sharing such an enlightening revelation. I realize my country is just a little over 200 years old, a mere child in the global community, so any help and advice we can get from the more "established" civilizations in the world is always met with gratitude. Thanks so much for pointing out our foolishness, you're a true humanitarian?...SC

[wr450rideruk]

i dont care, i ride a yamaha?

[ncmountainman]

Yeah give me a Chrome Moly perimeter frame that only weighs 2 lbs more over aluminum and that would be perfect for off roading.?

hey dan:cheers: i'll bet a chrome moly frame would weigh less than the current aluminum. there is a feller who has a old 426 works frame made in Cmoly and its 8 lbs lighter than the stock mild steel frame it replaced(Cmoly is not any lighter than mild steel just much stronger therefor thinner wall tubing can be used). i think the alum frame is only about a lb less than the frame it replaced. something about 50% lighter but 40% less strength,so they had to use a whole lot more. if yamaha really cared about anything but the consumer affinity for alum, they should have gone to Cmoly...its all about the money boys.

[tommy06]

So let me get this straight...You're not really addressing the main crux of the thread, but rather engaging in a "European riders are better than U.S. riders" type of diatribe based on the fact that folks from the U.S. do things a little differently than the rest of the world. Well, I'd like to be the first on the board to thank you for sharing such an enlightening revelation. I realize my country is just a little over 200 years old, a mere child in the global community, so any help and advice we can get from the more "established" civilizations in the world is always met with gratitude. Thanks so much for pointing out our foolishness, you're a true humanitarian?...SC

well, if that's what i notice on the boards.. maybe ppl who ride in US don't visit boards that much..

[clark4131]

In the interest of global peace and harmony, I'm going to close this thread. However, as the WR Mod and the originator of the thread, I get the rare opportunity of having the last word, so here it is...

The first, second, third and fourth generations of the WR have all been, and continue to be great bikes, with each new model demonstrating Yamaha's willingness to push the edge of the envelope and give the consumer what he wants. With the intro of the CRF-X, the world clamored for Big Blue to produce an aluminum frame, which they did, albeit a year or two behind the competition. However, even with them lagging behind the aluminum power-curve, the WR still beat out the competition in most comparison tests, in spite of its "archaic" use of steel tubing for a frame. Now, we have the Fifth, gloriously encased in a perimeter of the beautiful stuff. Is it better or worse? Some have their opinions either way, but the truth of the matter is that a bike is only as good as its rider. Put a veteran woodsman on an '98 XR400 and a squid on the new WR, and I know who's going to win every time. So I say to the precious few who have decided to turn up your nose at the "old school" majority of WR riders and their "low tech" bikes, beware! You may have the latest and greatest, but what will get you to the finish line first isn't that new pile of technology you're currently riding, it's what's in your helmet that counts when the rubber meets the road. Happy trails...SC