Maxxis Maxxcross IT vs Dunlop D952 comparison for interested people! - Part 2
Posted June 30, 2006 - 09:48 AM
After reading the above titled thread (sorry, don't know how to link to it) - I tried a DUNLOP D952
Here are some pictures to show the quality of the Dunlop and how well it did after a 20 mile single track trail ride with only a few rocks:
I know that oppinions differ from person to person, but here is imperical proof as to how poorly these tires are constructed. I spoke to several bike shops and told them the area I would be riding, they all agreed that the 952 was THE tire for that area. The grip was OK, not bad, but nothing to write home about. But the wear and chunking after only 20 miles is unacceptable - even if it were a Cheng Shin
Posted June 30, 2006 - 09:56 AM
What tires have worked well for that ride?
Posted June 30, 2006 - 11:07 AM
As for the tire, I don't know if the chunking is normal or not.....it does seem soft, but it was rated as an intermediate and is touted on the Dunlop website for its durability. I called Dunlop this morning on it, and they suggested I talk to the place where I got it from. I will do that tomorrow - hopefully I will leave with a new tire, if not, it will be the last Dunlop on my bike.
I plan on conducting my own tests and will ride the same trail at the same pace and take pictures of it as well to show its true durability. I haven't tried one yet, as this is my first tire....the stocker laster quite well.
Posted June 30, 2006 - 12:02 PM
Posted June 30, 2006 - 01:05 PM
Posted June 30, 2006 - 01:32 PM
Posted June 30, 2006 - 05:02 PM
Are you sure you didn't have 30 psi in that thing?
Posted June 30, 2006 - 11:19 PM
Oh, Assassin, have you ever heard the following adage? "Better to have everyone think you an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." You ought to take it to heart. If not, you might want to add a "Dumb" to the beginning of your screen name, just to avoid confusion ...SC
Posted July 01, 2006 - 05:44 AM
The soft tires appear to do better in the rocky conditions. Anything hard, like most Dunlops, end up chunking almost instantly.
Posted July 01, 2006 - 06:11 AM
I have never seen a tyre used off road look all clean and black too???
Assassin, I'm with you mate, I call BS too! I think BS definately warranted. Same thing would happen if that were a Maxxis IT.
I have to concur - that tire sure looks funny to me.
By the way, I have a Maxxis Desert IT now and I'm not particularly thrilled with it. For my next set, I'm going back to the combo I had before: Michelin M12 front and S12 rear. I think it's the narrow spacing btwn the lugs on the Maxxis Desert IT that I don't like. The tire sure seems to wear well, but doesn't get much traction, particularly in the deserts where I ride. When you can be bombing down a straight sand wash at 50, then go WOT and still break the rear so much that it starts slippin' and sliding (and yes, even on a DRZ400S ), I consider that a lack of grip.
Posted July 01, 2006 - 01:01 PM
That must be a defective tire. FWIW I run 12lbs air pressure.
Posted July 01, 2006 - 02:51 PM
Posted July 05, 2006 - 07:30 AM
Someone definately full of crap!!!
When was the las time your tire looked like that when you go for a ride?
Everyone go out and look at your tires, they only look real black like that after a nice big burnout on the asphalt.
Why do you lie to us????
Go buy a set yourself....I am only posting the facts of what happened. I really don't care if you go through 50 sets of tires, but this is the results I had after 20 miles of trail use. I called Dunlop on it and they referred me back to my dealer.....who, by the way, installed the tire when I purchased it. I did not verify the PSI as I would expect that a shop that installes tires on a very routine basis set it appropriately. As for the road burnouts....never happened. I ride legally and keep to the trails and the tracks.
As it so happened, I took the tire back to the dealership and they agreed that this was a problem and told me they have never had this happen. I clocked my rides and know how far I had ridden, the shop also knew of the specific trails I was referring to when I told them where I had been with it.....they still confirmed that the 952 was THE tire for that area.....they replaced it with another 952 (obviously admitting that something was not right).....I have not ridden with it yet, but will be testing it out in the same area.
If you don't like the facts as they are posted, I don't know what to tell you. I have no reason to 'lie' to you. I am simply passing on the experiance I had with this tire and the pictures to prove it.
Posted July 05, 2006 - 07:34 AM
punisher660 should take a photo of the D952 on the side of the tire to prove it is a D952.
It could be a D752, that everyone brought big stocks of when they stoped making them.
The D752 was a lot softer than the D952, and won't last 1/20th either.
I would be happy to take a picture of the sidewall, except for the fact that the shop kept it to return to Dunlop under its warranty claims. The shop is South Valley Motorsports in Sandy, UT....
Ask to speak to their parts guy (option 2 on the phone menu) and you can question them (Chris or Kevin) all you want about the tire.
Posted July 05, 2006 - 07:40 AM
I notice that your from Utah. Did your tire get torn up at 5 mile pass?
It was American Fork Canyon.....25 - 30 miles east of 5 Mile pass. I took the first trail from the parking area which croses a creek bed and becomes single track. For anyone that has ridden there, they know there are some rocks, but it is mostly loam/sand/some hard-pack/roots and the ideal place for an intermediate tire.
Posted July 05, 2006 - 07:44 AM
If he did big burnouts like you say, why aren't his edges rounded off? I will say that it does look like he was riding on the streets, but I dont think he was smoking the tire.
As stated before.....no streets at all (unless you want to count the 100 feet from the staged parking area at the trail head to the trail)
Why do you think I was pissed about the tire......do you think its because there was a problem with it?
Posted July 05, 2006 - 07:47 AM
It's interesting that he hasn't chimed in since this thread heated up...might be regretting starting it. I'll find out soon enough as I'll be mounting my 952's soon. I can't imagine them being any worse than the stock tires and those photos looked way worse than my stockers with over 500 miles on them.
I was out riding/boating moron......4th of July weekend....
I didn't take a laptop with me since I have yet to find a wy/fi hot spot at any campground I have been to.