Steering Dampners - give me the rundown!
Posted October 23, 2001 - 09:11 PM
Realistically to fit one here with new tripple clamps etc... I reckon I would be up for a $1000.00AU at least.
How much difference do these things make on say the WR400?? are they something thats easily justified considering the price? Any info would be good.
[This message has been edited by WR400inOZ (edited October 24, 2001).]
Posted October 23, 2001 - 11:16 PM
I went through the same mental gymnastics regarding the damper. Before I got my damper, there was only one person that I ever knew that had one. They're like hens teeth over here!
I looked at all the various models, WER, Scott, Ohlins & GPR & searched high & low for info & rider comments. I picked the GPR on advise from GPR & fellow TTers as well the way it seemed to work.
Yes, I am very happy with the unit & yes I'm glad I spent all that money. It is a safety & comfort devise that will save the front wheel from being whipped from your hands from rocks, tree roots or speed head shake. Over the years I've had several severe injuries & operations from being spat off bikes (not the 250F) that I thought I must invest in something that will assist control.
A lot of the comments about the GPR on this site are a bit out of date as GPR are constantly updating the unit. There is a lot of talk about damping away from centre & damping back to centre. It will send your brain numb if you think about it too much. I think any damper is better than no damper. With the GPR the steering is still light & it all works like normal - until you need it!
The web site for GPR is www.gpr-products.com & they are very helpful. The GPR unit is also available in Aust although they are old model units (& cheaper). The WER you can get from Ballard's although I didn't like that set up. The Scotts & Ohlins (same unit anyway) is available from Steve Cramer Products in Melb & cost about $1100AUD on the damper alone.
Cost wise they are all expensive - to our standards. WER is the cheapest, then GPR & then Scott/Ohlins.
I got the GPR & D1H triple clamps (so I could put Protapers on) ex US direct from GPR. The cost of the damper & 3clamp was $1100AUD including $150AUD in freight (less than a week delivery). The exchange rate used by VISA was a disaster & about 5% worse than what is quoted in the paper/news - so watch this point because it will cost you more money than you think if you import.
Posted October 25, 2001 - 07:10 PM
Mark...00 426 w/plates,and $4000.00 of other attachments!
Posted October 27, 2001 - 08:27 PM
Posted October 28, 2001 - 09:14 PM
I read about an Australian made steering damper in Dirt Action mag. Details are: MCS, phone (02) 4374 1655 & speak to Mark Cunningham.
I know nothing about this unit (ie- how good it is, cost, value etc). Another option for you that may wokr fine & save you money (?). It looks a bit like the Scott/Ohlins unit. I'd be interested to hear what you find out if you chose to investigate.
Posted October 29, 2001 - 01:20 AM
I do know the feeling of the front tyre hitting a rock and giving you the shakes. Obviously the concept is pretty much the same as the road bike version. **** at the end of the day its only another grand right!
Posted October 30, 2001 - 04:48 PM
Thats right - its only money after all!!!! That's if you've got plenty that is!!
The thing that swayed me about the stablizer/damper is that it is completely transferable. You can easily take it off your current bike (about 5min) before you sell it & then transfer it to your next bike. All you may need is a new bracket/collar to fit the new bike & this is the only ever going to be about $100AUD.
When riding, its hard to notice a change in the way the bike rides/handles. You think after all that money it would do something different. What it will do is probably save your butt, when you least expect it & most need it, & save you the truama of viewing your bikes undercarriage at speed!
I haven't tried it yet, although they say the biggest noticable differnce is when you ride another bike, the same as your, without a damper or ride your own bike without the damper on.
If your friend works at Steve Cramer then you should get honest feed back (like mine) & he may be able to help you out price wise as well.
Don't forget, every TAC injury claim will still cost you $450 & you get all the pain & suffering for many months. I'm suprised more aren't used & promoted in Australia.
If it reduces the risk - it's got to improve the fun!