WR450F vs. CRF450X
Posted April 23, 2006 - 02:51 AM
Posted April 23, 2006 - 03:07 AM
Hi guys, new to Thumper talk. I love this website. Looking at the WR450F & CRF450X. Which one? I hope it was alright to post here. Thanks for any feed back.
Welcome to TT. You'll probably get a biased view towards the WR here and vv. in the Honda Forum.
Both bikes have their stronger and weaker areas. I have owned Hondas and Yamahas and really like both. But to be truthful, I think you could be happy with any 06 450 these days.
If you take a close look at the Forums for both, the CRF seems to have more maintenance related issues whereas the WRs have a proven motor that appears to be less maintenance intensive with fewer posts related to such issues - for the most part.
If you read or put any credibility on Bike Magazine tests, they appear to slighly bias towards the CRF and edge out the WR in most areas. So why do people buy the WR? -- good value for money and rock solid reliability come to mind.
If there is not much price difference you will have a tough choice. TEST RIDE both if you possibly can before you lay out your cash.
my .02 worth
Posted April 23, 2006 - 07:28 AM
As good as all the bikes are now either one is a great choice. I would recomend the method my 6yr. daughter uses and pick the one with the best color!
Funny...my buddies bought Hondas and they like my Yamaha better. I bought the WR but like the Hondas handeling better. The grass is always greener, or redder, or bluer...
Posted April 23, 2006 - 08:49 AM
Posted April 23, 2006 - 11:08 AM
Yamaha does have significantly more longevity with the wr line. Its older and more mature.
That being said, you can't go wrong with either one. shop for the best deal, new or used.
Posted April 23, 2006 - 12:31 PM
I couldn't decide either after the good folks here and the mag articles then talking to a dealer who has both who said he sells more parts for the CFR450 engines than the WR's.
Also, most everyone says that the WR is eaiser to make fast and the Honda is a few hundred $$ more.
Thought I like the AL frame of the Honda, from a performance perspective its just not enough.
If you cannot find the Mar issue of dirt bike, pm me with a email address and I'll send a b&w pdf. Its around 5 meg in size.
For 06 models you'll probably save $300-500 on the WR too. I'll probab get the 08 if it has EFI, it'll surely have the Al frame by 07.
Check these out too.
Posted April 23, 2006 - 02:13 PM
As for my personal opinion, i would (and did) go for the WR and have never looked back once i made all of the free mods, and look forward to many more years on it !!
Posted April 23, 2006 - 02:37 PM
Posted April 24, 2006 - 03:28 AM
Posted April 24, 2006 - 07:22 AM
Posted April 24, 2006 - 08:30 AM
I'm in Grand Rapids, MI. (are you close???)
Anyways I bought WR 400 -98 new at the time, and It was such an reliable low maintenance bike. Now that they have been making these for so long, and the improvments they made for -05, I did not have any choice, than buying WR.
Posted April 24, 2006 - 07:29 PM
Posted April 24, 2006 - 07:50 PM
Posted April 25, 2006 - 09:58 AM
For riding in so cal. and baja which bike can handle the whoops better with out revalving the suspension? The larger tanks look wide on the X because they sit outside the frame. Can you still get foreward?
Both bikes would handle the whoops, it just depends on how fast you want to go thru them!! Honda sotck suspension is stiffer than the WR's, if you want to hit baja whoops on 4th gear, you would want to do a re-valve, if not, taking a soil sample for sure!!!
Posted April 29, 2006 - 02:35 PM
- requires more maintenance (valve issues).
- is heavier than the WR
- is wider/bulkier (read about people knocking off radiators in the woods).
- the header pipe hangs down and hits stuff (bad design).
- less stock engine protection vs. WR (what's there is plastic).
- No Excel rims.
- Cheesey speedo
- All mag reviews I read said the 450x has less power vs. the WR (before mods) and the 450x had less mod possibilities than the WR -- one calling the 450x a "campground cruiser"
His WR450 was low miles, pristine, all "free mods", Yosh TRC Pro Carbon Fiber/JD kit/AIS kit/hand guards/springs/HD tubes/new Pirelli tires -- was a no-brainer to keep the WR -- despite the excellent trade offer. New bikes are fun, but we felt the 450x would be a downgrade.
Posted April 29, 2006 - 07:48 PM
The biggest hole in the Honda is it requires more matenence if you dont mind turning a wrench you would probably enjoy more as it is closer to a race bred bike then the WR.
Again mine is an R but I never ride the WR any more in fact I am about to sell it. It has all the free mods, new titanium FMF pipe, quick shot AP, 51 tooth sprocket, oring chain, GPR stabilizer, DH1 tripple clamps and all the guards. It rips just not like the Honda.
WR great bike very reliable VS Honda great bike a little faster more work if you are worried about going fast fast go red. If you want to ride be competive and never have down time wrenching go blue.
Posted April 30, 2006 - 06:23 AM
LOL -- You are comparing Honda's 450 mx bike with Yamaha's 450 woods bike; if you want to compare mx bikes, a YZ450 will do just fine against a CRF450.
...If you want a bike that will be more of a racer with comp mods the Honda will at the end of the day beat the WR.
If you are comparing RFS woods bikes; a WR450 (w/free mods) will walk all over a 450x (w/similar mods).
Posted April 30, 2006 - 01:25 PM
Hey Turbo ask the honda guys how far the 450x will go with no oil, my wr went 32 miles a little over an hour of riding before it blew up with no oil in it at all thats pretty remarkable I think, the whole thing is junk I am picking up another 1 wed. GOD DAM MARGARRITAS!!
Um... don't ask that question. If you do, the will try to sell you an Accord instead of a bike. If you want to try that, you don't need to have a bike.
Just buy a bike. Get the WR, get the X. Just get a bike. They both are great.