Metal on oil filter (pic)


19 replies to this topic
  • 78sharpshooter

Posted February 24, 2006 - 11:19 PM

#1

I just changed out the oil filter and found this (see pic).

Is this indicative of a potential problem? I got the bike used and have ridden it 4 times and it has run great each time.

Your input is appreciated.


http://pic20.picture...7/130697474.jpg

  • jjjyz450f

Posted February 24, 2006 - 11:30 PM

#2

I just changed out the oil filter and found this (see pic).

Is this indicative of a potential problem? I got the bike used and have ridden it 4 times and it has run great each time.

Your input is appreciated.


http://pic20.picture...7/130697474.jpg

What year bike and have you done any mods to it?

  • 78sharpshooter

Posted February 24, 2006 - 11:32 PM

#3

its an '01 with no engine mods. completely stock motor

  • 2fastwhitey

Posted February 24, 2006 - 11:39 PM

#4

Doesn't look to bad bro. I have and 00 and it looked that way when I bought it but yours is slightly browner? or? I think it looks like pieces of the clutch disk, since on our bikes the oil and tranny share the oil. How does the clutch work and feel? Spongy, long engagement or quick and tight? Next time you change the filter see if you have the same flecks, if you do it might be time for new clutches and maybe even the basket. Get yourself a metallic drain plug and check if you get any metal shavings built up on it. It can be the cheapest engine diagnostic.
Happy trails

  • 78sharpshooter

Posted February 24, 2006 - 11:51 PM

#5

I don't have much to compare it to but the clutch seems pretty grippy but engages only in the last 1/3 or even 1/4 of the lever.

  • JSanfilippo

Posted February 25, 2006 - 01:22 AM

#6

Wow thats crazy. The only time my TT-R had that much crap in the filter was after the break in period. 1/4 of that is the norm on my bike. Then again I'm comparing a trail slob to an all out racer so that comparison isn't the least bit fair

  • jrcgaf364

Posted February 25, 2006 - 01:51 AM

#7

I don't know man those pieces look pretty big. I disregarded that on my bike then the oil pump went to hell.. maybe remove the right side case cover and check a few things out.....a rebuild is expensive

  • Farmer_dave

Posted February 25, 2006 - 01:59 AM

#8

I agree with 2fastwhitey it doesnt look metallic but rather pieces of clutch disc, Which if correct isnt as major.

  • big t

Posted February 25, 2006 - 03:45 AM

#9

I just changed out the oil filter and found this (see pic).

Is this indicative of a potential problem? I got the bike used and have ridden it 4 times and it has run great each time.

Your input is appreciated.


http://pic20.picture...7/130697474.jpg



It'll be alright. Did you change the oil and change the filter when you bought it? If not it probably has more than 4 rides on it.

  • TD-3

Posted February 25, 2006 - 04:14 AM

#10

Take a magnet to the debris on the filter.

If it sticks, don't stray too far from home.

If not, enjoy the ride.

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  • Satch0922

Posted February 25, 2006 - 04:34 AM

#11

by the color it looks like you need more frequent oil changes. However I am not alarmed by the shavings in the filter. Perfectly normal.

  • jjjyz450f

Posted February 25, 2006 - 07:22 AM

#12

78SHARPSHOOTER,
The reason I asked if it was modded because from that picture it doesn't look like metal. Did you put a bolt on heavy fly wheel weight? :thumbsup: You should probably remove the ignition cover because it looks like pieces of your stator assy. is coming off and getting into your oil. You will need a fly wheel puller (also a air or electric impact gun) to pull off the fly wheel to look at your stator. Thats where I would start. It should take you like 10 mins with the proper tools, very easy. :thumbsup:

  • 78sharpshooter

Posted February 25, 2006 - 09:01 AM

#13

I took a magnet to the debris on the filter and the majority of it stuck. see pic
http://pic20.picture...7/130735866.jpg

The debris is not that large. see pic below.
http://pic20.picture...7/130735868.jpg

I am going to take it for a ride today and was thinking I should maybe lay it on its side and pull the filter again. Or should I get the magnetic drain plug first?

  • Matt96xr6

Posted February 25, 2006 - 09:16 AM

#14

it is your clutch

Get a hinson basket and most of that will go away. I also used the Fastco ALuminum cryo treated plates on my 426. after both of those items were installed, there was never any debris in the oil

  • joshb

Posted February 25, 2006 - 09:19 AM

#15

Totally fine.... My filter has always had about that much crap in it.

  • 2fastwhitey

Posted February 26, 2006 - 09:52 PM

#16

Mine too, I wouldn't worry about it. I have the same feeling in my clutch as well, 78sharpshooter.

Get the magnetic drain plug and it will bild up there this will give you slightly improved oil flow. I would change the filter after 2 rides and check it again, but even if the debris persists I wouldn't worry much about it (but take a couple more pics and let me see).

  • Matt96xr6

Posted February 27, 2006 - 08:00 AM

#17

Well with that much stuff through the system, you would not want one of those pieces to get caught in a oil passage hole for the cam. Instant problem!

You want your oil clean. Those with the steel frames, need to make sure the screen at the bottom of the frame down tube is also cleaned regularly.

  • NYMXer

Posted February 27, 2006 - 08:25 AM

#18

Fine metals particles like that are normal. I run a magnetic drain plug so that my filter doesn't need to catch all that stuff.

  • smiti105

Posted February 27, 2006 - 08:50 AM

#19

The filter is working, what a shocker. I wouldnt woory about that. When was the last time the filter was looked at prior to your oil change? Ride it a couple times and pull it again, i would bet there is going to be alot less than that in it.

  • jrcgaf364

Posted February 27, 2006 - 08:58 AM

#20

Well with that much stuff through the system, you would not want one of those pieces to get caught in a oil passage hole for the cam. Instant problem!

You want your oil clean. Those with the steel frames, need to make sure the screen at the bottom of the frame down tube is also cleaned regularly.


Damn it....ive been trolling through the yz threads looking for that last bit of usefull info before i reassemble my baby and sure as $hit i found it.....i was unaware that there was a screen on the oil line coming out of my frame.....I just took it off and Bam a huge mess of shavings and chunks came out from when the motor went.....Thankyou :thumbsup: thankyou :bonk: thankyou :bonk: thankyou :bonk: thankyou :eek: thankyou :eek: thankyou :lol: thank you,,,,this thread probably just saved me a whole lot of :eek: frustration :eek: and :bonk: sweet mula :thumbsup: . You guys are the shit :bonk:
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