Found a JERK Cop today
Posted September 24, 2001 - 02:17 PM
What is V & T? Why shouldn't an officer tell a motorist what they did wrong before/during asking for license/reg/insurance? You've already got the license plate number.
Posted September 25, 2001 - 11:19 AM
NO, I am not kidding. I told you MY experience. All the agencies in my county are fairly well paid. With a twenty year retirement plan for most. When I took the police exam 13,000 people also took it for 50 openings. Unless you have a college degree and a flawless backround you will probably not get hired. Unless you are a minority. I know that this is not the case everywhere.
I also know what integrity is. I was an MP in the Army. I know that doesn't mean much to a marine but you don't need to have been either to have integrity. I go back to my opinion that people exaggerate. How do you know that 1/2 of all cops have no integrity. Because when you were wrong and called on it you thought one out of two cops were rude or mistaken. Does that mean he has no integrity? Or is it stories you heard?
Sure it is a hard job, but I never see anyone use that as a crutch. Everyone gets treated the same until they step over the line.
I don't usually respond to critics of the police as I know it will not change their minds. I am sure there are a few cops on TT but they don't want to waste the time either. I don't know why I did it here. I don't know of anyone who got into police work for the power. There isn't as much power as you think. The only time you exercise it is when someone screws up. You had better be right in all of your actions. If not you will have Internal Affairs, the lawyers and judges down your shorts. I got into it because I thought it would be an adventure. It was, for about the first five years. I saw alot of neat things and got to do just about everything there is to do on this job. Now it is just a job. I don't dislike it but it is just a job now. The quickest way to turn a Democrat into a Conserative Republican is to take him on a ride along.
V & T is vehicle and traffic law. It is good to get the paper work first because it is toufgh to get it once the motorist starts to argue w/you. Trust me, most will. In the city a great deal of the time the plate on the car is not the one that belongs to it and the driver is not the registered owner. Very few people will say, "I know I ran that light I was wrong". Those were the ones I didn't write if everything else was good. For some agencies that are not as busy, V & T is a big deal. They don't give too many breaks. They will be very short but professional. They are not there to debate on the side of the road all day.
Posted September 25, 2001 - 01:31 PM
I have run across a few very cool cops while riding.
Once, while camping at Lundy Lake near Mammoth Mountain, I just happened to have my motorcycle with me. To get to the open riding areas from the lake you need to ride on pavement for about five miles. I had my motorcycle warming up while I put on my gear, and a Highway Patrol car pulls up to a camp site a few yards away. Everyone there thought I was busted big time, but instead of turning off the bike and hiding, I just walked up to the guy and politely asked if I could ride on the pavement out of the camping area. He told me "Son, no wheelies, no problem".
The very next day I was riding on the pavement, and who drives by? I gave him a thumbs up and he replied in kind.
Near Victorville myself and some buddies where trying to get to the other side if Interstate 15. We rode for miles trying to find a way, but the only thing we could do is break the law by pulling our bikes under a fence or two and ride pavement for awhile so we could use an overpass to get to the other side of the freeway. So away we go down the streets and toward the overpass, and just as we get to it we spot a cop sitting there looking for speeders.
We stopped in our tracks and my friends start to panic. Busted! One of my less-intimidated friends rides his bike up to the cop car and right up to his rolled down window and asks "Can we ride over the freeway here?" The cop was dumbfounded. He told us that most people try to run in our situation but he would not mind if we went ahead and proceeded safely across the overpass. He had all of us red handed, but let us go.
Posted September 25, 2001 - 01:55 PM
I wasn't trying to really start an argument with you. I think everyone on this board is awesome. So please don't take my ranting out of context.
I truly did have an unbelievable experience with a cop recently as discussed above with the bicycle lane thing. I was not responsible for this, and still got a ticket. Took it to court and lost, took it to Internal Affairs and they found no wrong doing. Fact was, the cop didn't like me or my bike and found something he could right me a ticket for in an effort to persuade me to not ride in that area anymore. Well, it worked. I haven't ridden in that nearby city ever since.
Cops are like fast food restraunts. One bad experience can make you never trust them again. Basic customer service should be part of the routine!
Oh about the integrity. I won't hold it against you that you were in the Army. I have lots of respect for all military branches. And I wasn't saying that 50/50 have integrity issues. 50/50 are polite or rude. Sorry for the confusion.
The cop I recently encountered had no integrity. So badly that I asked him how he able to sleep at night -- and I would not normally ask such a question. He gave me a ticket for something I didn't do and lied in court to make it stick. The system failed me, as it probably does a lot of people. I think the only way to fix it is to promote better behavior from within the force through good leadership.
Just my .02 cents..,
Posted September 25, 2001 - 02:16 PM
Sorry this turned out to be so long.
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Posted September 25, 2001 - 03:16 PM
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