Found a JERK Cop today
Posted September 19, 2001 - 05:52 PM
"Hey boy, what're you doing with that thing on the streets?"
(knowing that I've done nothing wrong, I respond confidently)
"I have it registered, but someone stole my plate. I'm parked in from of the DMV to get another one. Don't worry, the bike is street legal and registered."
"Where are your turn signals then?"
"We don't need turn signals in Colorado"
"All vehicles need turn signals to be legal"
"I know some states require it, but not in colorado. I just got it registered less than a week ago and they said I didn't need them."
"So does that make it legal to ride on sidewalks?"
"I don't ride on sidewalks, why would I have to. It's street legal and plated as such."
"Well if you don't ride on sidewalks, then how'd the bike get up here?"
(realizing now that he was talking about the bike being parked on the sidewalk. Not a narrow sidewalk that might get int he way either.)
"I'm not riding it on the sidewalk like a punk little kid, I'm just parking it up here like eveyone with a motorcycle always does."
"Well it's illegal to have a motorvehicle on a sidewalk."
"How's it illegal? I'm just parking it up here where I can see it so someone doesn't run off w/ it. It's not like it's in anyone's way or anything."
"Well cars can't park up here, so motorcycle's can't either. It's against the law, and I can give you a ticket for it."
(starting to realize that maybe he might ticket me anyway, I get timid)
"Sorry Sir, I didn't realize that it bothered anyone, or that it was against the law. I'll move it right now."
I guess he could have been more of a jerk and given me a ticket for it. I never thought that it was illegal to park on the sidewalk up near the door of a store. Anyone else have an encounter like this?
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Posted September 19, 2001 - 08:16 PM
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Posted September 20, 2001 - 02:36 PM
Why is it that when a police officer has to do his job, he's being a jerk? I'm sure you wouldn't have parked your car up there. You know sidewalks are for people. (hell, ain't going there, it's not why i'm replying).
Think of it in this light....police spend most of their day reminding or trying to correct those things which their suppose to enforce...the things your legislature or city (by ordinance) have put into place. Occasionally police encounter someone who disagrees with these laws or just doesn't like being told what's lawful or unlawful. By the very nature of their contact with the public (confrontational) they are seen as Ogers or jerks.
I'm getting way into this too much. Here's another perspective. Someones going to complain about your bike on the sidewalk and that's not going to help others in the future who want to license theirs. It's a licensed motor vehicle, treat it as such.
Posted September 20, 2001 - 05:53 PM
I don't mind police doing their job. Most of the time I appreciate it. Without them, the US would be anarchy. They're largely our heros on the streets everyday, and we don't give them credit for it until they're killed.
I'm just saying that I guess I'd have a more gentle approach for things that are obviously not bothering anyone. And maybe it be different if I were in the shoes of a police man for a day. I've met nice policemen though, and nice policemen that have even given me a ticket, but they were still nice. I just wonder why more can't be like that. The rest are jerks. Period.
Oh, why is it that kids can park their bikes up there, and we can't park ours up there? What is it that's different? Ours are just heavier. I always turn off the engine and coast once I'm on the sidewalk anyway. Maybe others aren't as considerate? I dunno.
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Posted September 21, 2001 - 09:55 PM
Posted September 21, 2001 - 09:59 PM
"It's a Yellow 99' YZ400!!"
Posted September 21, 2001 - 01:19 PM
Posted September 21, 2001 - 02:29 PM
Look I'm not trying to sound like a jerk here, just making light conversation about a topic. Feel free to submit your oppinion. I know there's a member that's an officer...
Posted September 21, 2001 - 02:40 PM
Hey thumper33, I was looking for some of that Silkolene grease you suggested for the steering head. Where? I tried autozone, napa and pepboys.
Posted September 21, 2001 - 08:57 PM
Posted September 22, 2001 - 05:06 AM
Posted September 22, 2001 - 05:27 AM
These guys and gals have a very negative job. Most of their contact with people is because someone was doing something wrong and it requires them to provide enforcement which no doubt makes someone mad. ie, my neighbor plays his music to loud or someone took my kids bike. Someones always done something wrong and will want to argue or at least make excuses for what or why they did it.(How often do people get officers names and badge numbers when they do something nice?)
If you had to argue with people making excuses all day long, I think it would be easy to carry your attitude from one incident to the next.
Who knows mabye this cop just came from a call where he had to deal with domestic violence or child abuse. That in itself would probably get my adrenaline up enough to make me kind of a jerk the rest of the shift. Everyone has bad days and good days and mabye if it was a diffrent day he may never of stopped to talk to you.
Its unfortunate that you had a bad experience with your incident. In a perfect world they would have been considerate and just asked you to move it. I think most cops would treat you that way, but I try to understand when they don't. Stress and Chaos gets to everyone.
And if none of this applies, well some people were just born with their Butt where their face is suppost to be.
F.Y.I. If your ever interested, most departments have a ride along program where you can actually see what their job is all about.
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Posted September 22, 2001 - 10:39 AM
Posted September 22, 2001 - 11:31 AM
Posted September 22, 2001 - 12:32 PM
Think about it. How many times have each of us been stopped by a cop? Was the experience positive or negative? If it was negative, and the officer, or deputy, or trooper was a prick, or had "the attitude", you will remember that contact forever, and it will leave a very bad taste in your mouth about cops in general. But it's not fair to label all the good cops (majority) because of the few bad apples out there that take it upon themselves to strap on the gun and play "Buford T. Justice".
Every employer in America has it's share of people that fit this description (i.e. the a**holes). We all know and work with these type of people every day. It's just that cops with attitudes stand out more because they are in a position of authority, and they have the discretion to make your wallet a little thinner, or even take you to jail.
Bottom line: Don't judge or condemn the entire crop because of one or two bad seeds.
Posted September 22, 2001 - 04:51 PM
Last ticket I got was for driving in the bicycle lane. It was 11:30 at night, industrial road, and I had simply pulled over because a motorcycle cop was coming up from behind me with his lights on. I simply pulled all the way to the right, which apparently was a bicycle lane.
He didn't even give me a chance to explain. Said to give him my info. I asked what I was going to be cited for and he told, all I could do was laugh in disbelief.
I've been riding on the street for almost 10 years, this is the second ticket I've ever had.
Sorry, but it was BS. I lost the battle in court and appeals court too. They will believe the cop everytime unless you just happen to have a witness or video.
Oh yeah, the time before I got pulled over the cop admitted that he was sitting on the side of the road when I passed by him at a high rate of speed. He said he bumper-paced me at 105 mph in a 65 mph zone. Also BS, because had I been going that fast he would have had to run his tired old Capri at over 140 mph just catch up. First words out his mouth were M...F.... G... D... crotch rocket. And he waved happily at every Harely who drove by while he wrote the ticket.
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Posted September 24, 2001 - 09:36 PM
Every officer has his own style. Firmness is an officer safety issue. The more firm you are the more controll you have over a situation. It can be taken too far though.
Personally, I don't care about a persons excuse for why he did something, it is how he treats me that determins weather I give him a break or not. Now again this is my experience. I work in a very violent city and only used V & T to stop suspicious persons. Unless it was a gross violation. In either case I could care less if the person thought I was "Officer Friendly"
People like to exaggerate, I have been out in public and heard people talk about being stoped by the police. I know they are out right lying because of the outragous stories. "The first thing the that ******* cop said to me was, what the f*** do you think you are doing." Every agency in my county is very professional. Sure, some officers are a little roufgh on the edges but professional. I never in 14yrs. seen or heard of cops acting like this or any of the other stories these idiots tell after a few drinks. They all know how to do the job better than the police!
Don't get me wrong I am not saying cops are perfect, just like mechanics, computer techs., and so on. I don't try to tell them how to do there jobs though.
Posted September 24, 2001 - 10:13 AM
01 WR426 Uncorked.
Posted September 24, 2001 - 01:49 PM
You have to be kidding right? You make some good points, and don't get me wrong here, but this is exactly what I'm talking about.
If you believe that some cops don't abuse their position, then you have blinders on your eyes.
I have friends who are cops, and fire fighters, etc. I was in the Marines for almost 9 years. I know what true integrity is and haven't seen much in my experiences with the law. The ratio for me is about 50/50. Which is pretty poor.
I also know good people who weren't hired by the police department because of something they did more than 20 years ago. And I know people who should have never gotten a job as a cop, who got on the force.
All I'm saying is, the job is tough, everyone recognizes that. But, cops need to remember that the average citizen is not their enemy and stop treating us as such.
Posted September 24, 2001 - 02:11 PM