Chain Lube



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  • WR400inOZ

Posted September 17, 2001 - 09:03 PM

#1

I've tried a number of different chain lubes on the market, but am hard pressed to find one that seems to last any decent amount of time when riding.

The chain is always bone dry and clanky after each ride with absolutely no evidence of chain lube sticking around to help keep things lubed? I usually put it on a few days before a ride. Is this normal or is there a particular brand out there that seems to do a better job?



[This message has been edited by WR400inOZ (edited September 18, 2001).]

  • buffaman

Posted September 18, 2001 - 02:59 PM

#2

after i wash my bike i use wd-40 to clean the chain and then i use honda chain lube and never have any problems...good luck

  • mxchamps

Posted September 18, 2001 - 06:09 PM

#3

If you are running an o-ring chain you are best off to lube it with wd-40 after you wash it. It will keep it from rusting and be an easy lube on the o-rings. Chain lubes let all the dirt stick to your chain and eat up the o-rings and sprockets. Sure they are better than wd-40 on a standard chain, but you're best off not running any if you have an o-ring(you're nuts not to).

  • *mike68*

Posted September 18, 2001 - 11:13 PM

#4

You guys lube your chain :)

  • MN_Kevin

Posted September 19, 2001 - 02:20 AM

#5

PJ1 chain wax, although the WD40 and O-ring chains is correct. O-ring chains (supposedly) has lubricant internal to the chain, hence the O-ring.

The PJ1 is essentially a dry lubricant, and will not collect dirt. I use it as my cable lube.

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  • Ynahg

Posted September 19, 2001 - 02:41 AM

#6

What is important, is that the chain is lubricated in the inside (of the rolls).
I don't recomend WD40, it's a wonderfull product......but not to lube a chain. WD40 is way to thin to support the huge pressures on the rolls. A good chain lube is very fluid when applied, so it can penetrate into the rolls and after the solvents evaporates it has to become quiet thick, to prevent metal on metal contact as much as possible, but not too sticky, to prevent dirt to stick on the chain.
Some chain lubes also contain EP additives, as used in gear oils.

Try out.

  • Greg_C

Posted September 19, 2001 - 02:43 AM

#7

I just installed a new O-Ring chain, and after reading the box and the Yamaha manual I have decided to just brush on 10w-30 with a paintbrush after each wash. Both warn against sprays that have solvents that can damage the O-Rings. I found the wax just painted my chain white but did not seem to lube well.

  • *mike68*

Posted September 19, 2001 - 04:32 AM

#8

I don't lube my o-ring chain at all. I stopped lubing it after my trip to Bills in April. I cna't stand messy chain lube so I stopped doing it. I have over 1,300 miles since it's last lube. It looks good enough to me. I am not suggesting this for liability reasons :), it's just one thing less to worry about. I am sure that those who have seen my ride aren't suprised.

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  • Tim_in_WA

Posted September 19, 2001 - 05:40 AM

#9

Tri-Flow before every ride.

It has a teflon additive for lubrication, and is O-ring safe. Plus it doesn't attract dirt as much like most of the other lubes, and any small overspray on the wheels/swingarm/etc. wipes right off. After lubing the chain, I wipe off the excess with a shop towel. The chain always looks like new (no gunk build-up) after lubing it. I've been using it for years, and haven't had any problem with premature wear.

And *Mike68*, you are hardcore man!!! I have a buddy that you need to meet. He does the same thing on his FZR 600 street bike. Lubes the chain about every other year! Scary...

  • *mike68*

Posted September 20, 2001 - 02:29 AM

#10

Tim,
I pend to much time fixing the things I brake, no time to mess with that little stuff. I also work in theindustrial maintenance field and these chains can take a hell of a lot of abuse. I am also not a big fan on wrenching.

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  • Steve_Morgan

Posted September 24, 2001 - 01:02 PM

#11

WD-40 attacks rubber. It's a solvent, not a lubricant. Just for fun, blow up a ballon and spray some WD-40 on it, wait about 5 minutes, and BLAM! It's great for loosening rusted bolts though :)

  • PMAUST

Posted September 24, 2001 - 05:41 PM

#12

I clean my o-ring chain with kerosene and blow dry it using a air hose. The air hose helps to dislodge stuff that may get stuck on it. Then I apply a good chain lube. I follow the recommendations of Yamaha and even use their chain lube or comperable OEM brand. So far I am still on the original chain. No excessive sproket wear et cetera. I have been amazed at how long my stock chain has lasted. Good luck. P

  • WR400inOZ

Posted September 25, 2001 - 04:51 PM

#13

Well thankyou all for your replies. There seems to be some mixed feelings over the WD-40 thing. I use it only to prevent the chain from rusting after washing the bike, followed by a dose of lube on the inside (under the swingarm) of the chain.

The Factory Yamaha WR chains are an O-Ring unit correct?


  • *mike68*

Posted September 26, 2001 - 12:48 AM

#14

Yup, that is correct.

  • BlueThunder

Posted September 27, 2001 - 02:10 PM

#15

WD-40 is perfumed KEROSENE. Not the best thing to lube a chain with an oil-based solvent. Kerosene is a great cleaner though, as long as you blow the excess off of the chain before you use a good quality chain lube( I really like Maxima Chain Wax). And remember the cardinal rules for chain maintenance is "adjust cold, lube warm" and "better too loose than too tight". :)

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  • daveee

Posted September 27, 2001 - 03:56 PM

#16

WD-40 doesnt contain any kerosene whatsoever!

Straight from their website:
"WD-40 does not contain silicone, kerosene, water, wax, graphite, chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs), or any known cancer-causing agents".

Ever wondered what it stood for?
"WD-40 literally stands for Water Displacement, 40th attempt."

I just learnt that too :)

  • neWRiver

Posted September 28, 2001 - 07:31 AM

#17

I think maybe the original formula of WD-40 was based on kerosene. I had always heard that it was. I read somewhere recently that they use mineral spirits because kerosene is too dirty. Also, I believe that the formulation involves some amount of light lubricant. I think the original purpose for WD-40 is in marine (salt water) corrosion prevention applications. I'd also bet that they have changed the formula from time to time (remember the big Coke/Classic Coke scandal). Maybe it's really WD-48 or something now. :)

It's all I'm using on my o-ring chain right now. I just got tired of wax everywhere and the cleaning involved (and my chain never looked clean). I'm going to find out for myself if anything more is really needed. After about 500 miles so far, I can't see any excessive wear or sticking. Maybe I'll also give the Tri-flow a try.

  • *mike68*

Posted September 28, 2001 - 07:45 AM

#18

We use a moisture displacement srat at my work. It works well and LPS , Red Lion , and drummond american are a couple companies that sell it. I haven't tried it yet but then again......

  • Rich_in_Orlando

Posted September 28, 2001 - 08:13 AM

#19

The proof's in the pudding. I use WD-40 before each Sunday's ride. I'm on my second chain in two years and I ride in sand every weekend. The only reason I HAD to replace my chain was that my rear sprocket was about to give up the ghost and it made no sense to replace a sprocket without replacing the chain. I do notice that if I don't lube my chain every week, it gets a light coating of surface rust on it. That's what I'm most concerned about when I lube the chain. WD-40 works for me.

  • Guest_Guest_*

Posted September 28, 2001 - 09:34 PM

#20

I have a KTM 200 with DID X-ring chain. It was ridden every weekend in sugar sand from 98 until I bought my 250F (still gets ridden occasionally). All I ever did was apply WD-40 before each ride and after each wash. It is still within tolerance for wear and works great.




 
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