98 KLX 300 compared to KX 250F?
Posted 23 December 2005 - 08:53 PM
I don't have access to borrow a modern 250F for a test ride, so does anyone reading this have experience on a KLX 300 and also experience on a modern 05+ 250F? I would like to hear if the 250 has more snappy power and vastly more nimble handling. Bikes I would be interested comparing to the 300 would be the KX 250F or RM 250F, YZ 250F. Are they cool enough to justify blowing a wad of cash to upgrade from my 300? I like to do fast trail riding and roost up the occasional impromptu, unofficial MX track type trails. With my 300, I wish it were a little bit lighter and a little bit snappier.
Posted 24 December 2005 - 10:09 AM
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Posted 25 December 2005 - 06:23 PM
My conclusion..... The new 250's are great bikes and are probably fantastic for the MX track. I ride woods almost exclusively so how good they are at MX is irelevant to me. The modern 250's do not have the power needed to thrill me. If I want to move up, the 450's are my next step. I found all of the 250's I tested to have very narrow powerbands and to be somewhat slow to respond to the throttle. Handling did not strike me as being a major difference either, but after all, I am a woods rider and the KLX handles good in the woods.
To answer your questions, the new 250's are not going to blow you away with improved handling in the woods although the power will be fairly noticable over a bone stock KLX300. But, if the KLX has all the mods like mine, I just don't see where I would gain anything by steping over to a new one unless I wanted to spend all my time on a MX track. My next target for a possible replacement bike is either the CRF450x or a KTM 450exc, or maybe I'll just stick with my old KLX that is not quite so old after all.
Posted 26 December 2005 - 07:49 PM
Posted 26 December 2005 - 10:13 PM
Posted 26 December 2005 - 11:37 PM
To answer your questions, the new 250's are not going to blow you away with improved handling in the woods although the power will be fairly noticable over a bone stock KLX300.
Bucked, first off, let me say that I love the KLX. I'll probably always have one. But a stock, near stock, or tricked out 300 is not even a close comparison to the 365 - power wise. Even a 331 or 340 with pumper is not really close. Most here do not have 365's and probably don't realize the rush you get when twisting the throttle.
Even an older 01/02 WR that has free mods will smoke any 300 with any mods you can do to it. Add a 331 and FCR to the KLX and the 250 will still be very very close if not faster. Now granted, I miss the low end grunt on the 300 and especially the 331 when I get on a WR250f, but for sheer acceleration, great handling, stability, low weight and speed.....most any new 250 will outperform the KLX easily. That's not to say I don't love my KLX - I do, but Kawi has just let their R&D sleep for the last DECADE. If you notice, Yamaha has fairly serious changes every year and major changes every 2-3 years. That's why they are so far ahead in areas like suspension compared to the KLX.
As far as handling is concerned, a bone stock WR250F felt significantly better to me than my EXP tweaked KLX suspension set up specifically for me. A buddy of mine told me that we'd all be riding blue in 6 months when I told him I was considering a WR for my son. Another buddy told me not to ride my son's WR or I'd be sorry. I couldn't not do it, so I made the mistake and rode it - and I had to have one. They are a blast to ride. We went from all green to mostly blue (I still have my KLX though and probably always will) in about 1 month. (I must admit that my extreme bad luck with KLX valves played into the decision.)
The new crop of 250's are significantly more modern and advanced than a KLX. They cost more too. And, they are not as good for technical trail riding. They also don't have the low, low down grunt of the KLX. But they sure are fun.