No yami knowledge here about valves


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  • drz250vid

Posted December 16, 2005 - 12:05 AM

#1

Did a quick search here and did not see anything about valve problems with these bikes as compared to the red, yellow and green.

Is that so? I ride a two stroke but with the great deals may want to upgrade but i am afraid to blow a top end. How is valve maint on the yz four strokes? They bend or blow often?

new 06 has 5 valves? thanks guys

  • suzuki28

Posted December 16, 2005 - 12:19 AM

#2

my dad and i had yzf's. he had the 450 and i had the 250f. i rebuilt the topend once on my 250f in 2 years. my dad had his also for 2 years and all he did was ride and change the oil and air filter. like i always say they are the TOYOTA of motocross

  • bmeador

Posted December 16, 2005 - 02:25 AM

#3

I've had 2 wr's (1998,2004) the 98 model had 350-400 hrs on it not ONE problem of any kind. 2004 has about 275 hrs in it still going strong. :applause:

  • sirthumpalot

Posted December 16, 2005 - 04:23 AM

#4

All the YZF's have 5 valves. They have a stellar reputation for reliability, especially when compared to Honda CRF's.

  • eazrider

Posted December 16, 2005 - 06:55 AM

#5

'04 YZ450 purchased new in December '03......no valve adjusments required..just gas, oil, air filter.......

  • 642MX

Posted December 16, 2005 - 07:13 AM

#6

like i always say they are the TOYOTA of motocross



I like that!! Very true, YZF's don't require a bunch of parts like the other brands.

  • BIGBLUEKNIGHT

Posted December 16, 2005 - 07:17 AM

#7

after 5000 miles my dad had to have his valves adjusted on his 450

  • grayracer513

Posted December 16, 2005 - 07:58 AM

#8

You're not going to see much in the way of valve issues on this or any YZF forum. Yamaha produces an extremely high quality titanium valve and treats it as well as is possible. The nitride coating is applied as heavily as the current technology allows, and the valve seat materials are matched to the valves very well. There are lots of '03's, and even some '01's that haven't had their first valve reshim yet. And it isn't just the valve train that holds up well, either. The 250F's go through them a little faster, but the cams in those little rev monsters spin faster than the cranks in most cars do, and they end up with easily twice as many valve cycles per hour as the big bikes do.

The 5 valve design means more, lighter intake valves that require less spring pressure to control, and need less lift to provide the necessary air flow. The less aggressive cam profile means that spring pressure can be reduced even further. That helps.

That explains the intakes, but what about the exhaust? There's only two, like everyone else. Just a sound design, executed well from high quality materials. That's all anyone would need.

  • drz250vid

Posted December 16, 2005 - 08:04 AM

#9

WOW guys! Thanks for the info. Well if that aint enough to wanna go blue I dont know what is! So how far back would you guys go if buying a used 450??

sorry i do mostly trail riding and climbing stuff. i do like to try to get air though and pose as an mxer every once in a while.

racing would be strictly haresrambles

  • grayracer513

Posted December 16, 2005 - 08:38 AM

#10

All the 450's have been among the best bikes Yamaha has built in terms of reliability. But each year has had it's own "character". The '03 had an ignition map and overall tuning that made it an extremely responsive, torquey, and quick revving engine. It may even have redefined those terms all on its own. That, combined with one of the lowest rotating masses any such bike was ever built with made it a bit of a handful, and somewhat difficult and tiring for some to maintain control of. The stock clutch was a grabby pain in the butt, too. Both these problems are curable by adding a GYT-R flywheel, or the 6 or 8oz Dr.D unit, and the GYT-R clutch plate kit.

The '04 had the same engine, but a different spark map, and was a little better behaved. The clutch had been fixed, but they still benefit from a little more flywheel weight. The forks were new and were a significant improvement.

The '05 had even better suspension, and a much more civilized engine. Some say too civilized, but the thing is still really fast. They just need to be ridden differently. Dynos prove they have as much real power as the '03, but they just don't bring it on quite as hard at low RPM.

You can't go wrong with any of them, really.

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  • drz250vid

Posted December 16, 2005 - 08:40 AM

#11

awesome thanks. Man that new 2006 frame looks tight though! I can not believe some of the prices though WOW!

  • jmurray289

Posted December 16, 2005 - 01:37 PM

#12

I have been eying the kawi and honda 450 forums... a lot of valve speculation there, but not many recent complaints either. Wonder if they have it figured out? I'd kind of like to get a HOnda... but I only trust the Yamaha at this point.

  • drz250vid

Posted December 16, 2005 - 01:43 PM

#13

what is the deal yami has going on now? 2.9 for a year then what through the roof with the apr and payments? i may go tonight to check em out

  • Yak

Posted December 16, 2005 - 02:09 PM

#14

Like i always say they are the TOYOTA of motocross


Except the Yamaha doesnt remind me of an underpowered tin can.

  • kawirider

Posted December 16, 2005 - 02:14 PM

#15

Except the Yamaha doesnt remind me of an underpowered tin can.

lol, mostly true, but Toyota does make a V8 now.

  • Butta

Posted December 16, 2005 - 02:18 PM

#16

Except the Yamaha doesnt remind me of an underpowered tin can.


I have no lack of power issues with my Tundra Double Cab 4x4........

  • Yak

Posted December 16, 2005 - 02:22 PM

#17

true, in the last 10 years they have really stepped up the power. But back in the ealry 90's... hopeless.

  • drz250vid

Posted December 16, 2005 - 02:27 PM

#18

HEMI :applause:

  • Wyatt

Posted December 16, 2005 - 02:45 PM

#19

Yamaha has 6 months no interest right now.

I am not sure what else.

  • Satch0922

Posted December 17, 2005 - 06:07 AM

#20

the YZF's have valves? :applause:





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