Posted December 07, 2005 - 10:10 AM
Posted December 07, 2005 - 10:17 AM
Posted December 07, 2005 - 10:18 AM
Eco nazi's are everywhere!
I always pull over or slow down and go around mountain bikers. They are usually pretty respectful. I know we have trash riding dirt bikes too.
Posted December 07, 2005 - 10:19 AM
Be nice until it is time to not be nice.
I would have loved to see the look in his face when you blocked his path.
Posted December 07, 2005 - 10:27 AM
Posted December 07, 2005 - 10:48 AM
he started yelling at me calling me an a-hole and that I'm going to ruin the environment, get the mountain closed, yada, yada, yada.
What a dick!
These enviro-fundamentalist type's are so f'n annoying.
Just last nite, I'm watching my local news (KCRA in Sacramento) and the Yamaha commercial come's on. You know the one "kick/ride/kick/ride" drill instructor, pushing the TTR's. Well as soon as the commercial ends, what do you suppose the next commercial is? A damn Sierra Club, commercial
The guy in the commercial goe's on and on about preserving our wilderness for his kid's and all that B/S rhetoric. Do you suppose that was just a coincedence? Man, I get so tired of that same old worn out story.
Really makes sense, that my son can ride his mosquito abatement Banshee year round-and my 04 WR is restricted to it's lame red sticker.
Posted December 07, 2005 - 10:54 AM
Posted December 07, 2005 - 11:00 AM
i've never had any words with a mtn biker, and also never had any words with dirtbikers when i've been mtn biking, except 'hi, how ya doin?'. i therefore conclude that 99% of all mtn bikers are totally cool. that's a higher percentage than almost any other segment of the population.
Posted December 07, 2005 - 11:02 AM
"How dare you, you are on a multi-use trail, probably originally built for and by motorcycle riders and after I approach you in a polite manner you get indignant?! you!" etc, etc, etc.......... "Do you know how many miles of non-motorized trails are out there? Get the off this trail and go to the other 99.9% of the trails in this state that are off limits to me, you !"
Never had anything turn physical but that is my usual response..........
The Horsemen always seem to be the coolest, infact I have had some great trail side chats with horsemen but the hikers and MTB'ers are usually a$$holes.
Posted December 07, 2005 - 11:07 AM
Posted December 07, 2005 - 11:09 AM
Posted December 07, 2005 - 11:10 AM
... by titling this thread 'mountain bikers.. grrrr' you're being just as closed-minded and lame as the anti-motorized-nazi's.
My apologies, I didn't realize your self-esteem was so fragile. Besides, this wasn't my first experience with this type of schmuck. As a matter of fact, this is becoming the rule here rather than the exception. We have a lot of Kalifornians who've moved to this side of the state who complain about everything. There's a group of them now who moved next door to a local municipal airport that want to have it shut down because it's too noisy . Did they buy their houses sight unseen or what?...SC
Posted December 07, 2005 - 11:18 AM
Posted December 07, 2005 - 11:32 AM
My apologies, I didn't realize your self-esteem was so fragile. Besides, this wasn't my first experience with this type of schmuck. As a matter of fact, this is becoming the rule here rather than the exception.
i also live in nevada. i rode alot around truckee and reno when i lived in truckee and norcal (up to 2 yrs ago). never had the problems you have had, not in norcal and also not in truckee or around peavine. maybe that's coincidence and you just got lucky. maybe you're doing something that incites people. i just know i've ridden alot around places with lots of bicycles (downieville, truckee/peavine/northshore, moab) and not had any problems. a couple of grumpy hikers and 1 grumpy horseperson is all i've found.
Posted December 07, 2005 - 11:40 AM
Posted December 07, 2005 - 11:52 AM
Posted December 07, 2005 - 11:52 AM
one run in with an a-hole horse person that deteriorated into yelling.
one run in with an a-hole hiker trying to block the trail with logs, this also deteriorated into a heated discussion of what multiple use means.
I have not ever had words with any Mtn. Bikers. The vast majority have been cool and appreciated me pulling over for them. Sometimes I will get a dirty look, but no mouthing off.
Posted December 07, 2005 - 01:09 PM
Posted December 07, 2005 - 01:16 PM
A person who loses his temper and over reacts to some yelling from a total jerk-off is still an ******* in my book. I wasn't there, I don't know what happened, but I don't see how someone yelling at you should have provoked you to be physically confrontational. You could have just as easily said, "have a nice day I hope you don't treat other courteous trail users with the same animosity that you've shown me"...and been on your way.
Call me a pacifist, but words are not going to provoke me into an act that portrays me as being a hot head. This is how stereotypes start. I'm sure that MTB rider is on some equivalent forum talking about how some ******* MC rider threatened to beat him up him for wanting to protect the environment! (yeah right) I bet that MTB rider will be more of a prick to the next MC rider he comes across. Maybe he'll even get his "green" friends to make some booby traps or block some trails in the name of their BS cause. And that is really not good.
I've been on almost all sides of this, I've been yelled at by hikers, I've been yelled at by equestrians, both on my MC and on my MTB. And I've been roosted on while hiking by an MC riding moron that yelled at me for slowing him down! I always just listen to the BS and then tell them it's a multi-use trail and if we all act responsibly and safely we should all be able to respect eachother and get along. (you better be sure you know the trail you are on is open for your use type if you take this approach, because you will look dumb regardless if you are on a closed trail) My experience is that when I have said this the person yelling opens up and admits to taking out on me what some other a-hole on a ride like mine should have gotten. It was payback for something I didn't do, but somebody else on a MC, or MTB, or in hiking boots had been a jackass to them and they were pissed about it. That's why I say don't let anger and stupidity escalate; defuse it, be the better person. We must share the trails or the trails will be lost.
Protect your privilege to use the trail by being an ambassador to your sport, no matter what you are riding. I strive to always be seen in a positive light when on the trails. I'm sure there will always be other trail users that will have a hard-on for me just for being on a MC, MTB or whatever. But hey, the world isn't perfect, let that be their problem...words are harmless. First, I'm gonna kill'em with kindness unless they come swingin' for me. And in that case, well, then it's on!
Posted December 07, 2005 - 01:19 PM
Regarding Mt. Bikers - most of the bad experiences with MTB'ers has been in areas that are not official riding areas but they were primarily formed by dirt bike riders and because the areas have been encroached upon by development they have become popular with the MTB'ers. Once they feel they own the place they seem to forget how the trails got their in the first place........ wrong mind set but understandable.