Thinking of going yellow, and not the aniversary edition


38 replies to this topic
  • chadapotamus

Posted November 29, 2005 - 11:02 AM

#1

Well after looking, calling around, and talking to sales guys at several local dealerships I'm getting alittle discouraged. Everyone is giving me true OTD prices of 8 grand or more, 8600 was the highest so far.

But... I did find a great deal on a leftover '05 RMZ450. From what I've been reading on here and hearing from friends is that everyone is really happy with these bikes. Great handling and good smooth roll-on power, which is something that I feel the older YZ450s don't have (this is just my opinion, I never felt comfortable on the ones I rode). They also seem to be fairly reliable. The only issue is that they have a manual cam chain tensioner and you have to keep up on it.

I think I'm going get it. Am I crazy!?
I guess if I don't like it I can always get another yamaha next year when the prices calm down alittle. But if the thing blows up, I won't be riding any color bike for a while.

  • Just034

Posted November 29, 2005 - 11:11 AM

#2

You can do what you like but I have always regretted getting second best, which I eventually sell to get what I really wanted. It just haunts me in the back of my mind when I know I settled.

  • SCIENCE

Posted November 29, 2005 - 11:27 AM

#3

Look around a bit more. I know it's tough for you Cali guys pricing wise. $8K is way to much. I can't believe that dealers are raking you guys so bad! I had an OTD price of $6450 for a Blue one. I think I've seen better pricing posted here. Try International Motorcycle Brokers as there pricing looked good. Not sure if their (Canadien) bikes qualify for red/green stickers though.
If you try another brand - go Red first, Yellow second, Orange third, Green fourth. I think the Green one may be pretty good, but I would never buy a first year model.

  • walent215

Posted November 29, 2005 - 11:30 AM

#4

Well after looking, calling around, and talking to sales guys at several local dealerships I'm getting alittle discouraged. Everyone is giving me true OTD prices of 8 grand or more, 8600 was the highest so far.

But... I did find a great deal on a leftover '05 RMZ450. From what I've been reading on here and hearing from friends is that everyone is really happy with these bikes. Great handling and good smooth roll-on power, which is something that I feel the older YZ450s don't have (this is just my opinion, I never felt comfortable on the ones I rode). They also seem to be fairly reliable. The only issue is that they have a manual cam chain tensioner and you have to keep up on it.

I think I'm going get it. Am I crazy!?
I guess if I don't like it I can always get another yamaha next year when the prices calm down alittle. But if the thing blows up, I won't be riding any color bike for a while.

have you checked with lacyclesports in inglewood?they have 06 yz250f's for 6399 otd so i cant imagine the 450's being more than 7 otd

  • DPW

Posted November 29, 2005 - 12:02 PM

#5

I think I'm going get it. Am I crazy!?
I guess if I don't like it I can always get another yamaha next year when the prices calm down alittle. But if the thing blows up, I won't be riding any color bike for a while.


I know the feeling...I saw the OTD prices from TT members of $6500 and down, but when I called around the prices ranged from $8100 to $7100. Take this into consideration the dealer price is right around 5900 for a 2006 YZ450F. Unless you buy from an online broker or don't pay texas I don't see how you can get a bike for any less than $6700 range. Some of folks here are sponsered by the dealer and get the bike at cost, they don't say that in their post they just say ":p I got mine 2006 YZ450F for $5800 OTD with a steak dinner"....Take the prices here with a grain of salt, but the online brokers and the bikes for sale in the TT store are under $6500 delivered to your nearest airport..those are real.

$5800 dealer cost+TTL(http://carmax.com/dy...xtitletags.aspx)$650=$6450

Just to give you an idea...doesn't include prep and the other stuff

The bike is in big demand right now and the dealer knows that$$.

  • chadapotamus

Posted November 29, 2005 - 12:40 PM

#6

Yeah, if someone said they could get me one for around $6800 OTD I'd be all over it, in fact anything 7 grand or less I'd go for it. I'm EXPECTING to pay more in SoCal, but not $8600.
Thanks for the info on the dealer cost though. Having that info in the back of my head will help me try to negotiate a price.
I do have a couple friends that sell bikes and a few in the parts department at a local dealership, I haven't even tried to see if they could get me the "hook-up" yet. I just talked to some guy on the phone there.

So, now I'm thinking I shouldn't give up yet. I'll keep trying. I'll drive the distance if I have to, maybe Arizona will have better prices?

I'm setting my limit at $7000.00. If nobody can make the deal for me, the RMZ wouldn't be a bad backup plan I guess. I'm pretty far from being brand loyal, but I still have never been much of a Honda guy. I've had two hondas and only kept them for a short time.

Also, has anybody in California actually bought and recieved a bike from the TT store? I might look into some of the online brokers, but the only thing is I need to finance part of it. I can put like 4000-4500 down, but need to finance the rest. That down payment almost fully pays for the leftover RMZ I found. Are all these online deals like TT and International Motorcycle Brokers a cash only deal?

I'm willing to pay a couple hundred more to be able to go to the dealer and say "I want that one" and then take it home in the back of my truck that same day. There's just something reassuring about that. I'd probably go bonkers waiting for that crate to arrive.

  • Just034

Posted November 29, 2005 - 12:51 PM

#7

Brother, there were 2 here in Vegas on the floor unsold. St george Ut always has great deals mabey a little weekned getaway is what you need and with the money you save you can blow it in the casinos and keep my state income tax at 0%.

  • DPW

Posted November 29, 2005 - 12:55 PM

#8

chadapotamus, check your PMs

  • tdc_worm

Posted November 29, 2005 - 01:28 PM

#9

You can do what you like but I have always regretted getting second best, which I eventually sell to get what I really wanted. It just haunts me in the back of my mind when I know I settled.


i am curious as to how you came to the conclusion that one bike was second best as opposed to the other? heck, it may be third best or even best... that seems like a subjective comment...

i, too, am considering these two bikes: 06 rmz & 06 yzf (i have ruled out the 1st year kxf as i have a valve eating kxf250... and i dont want a crf...)

i am a rider of intermediate skill and here is what i find appealing:

rmz450--quoted as being the best turning bike ever by transworld (and i need all of the help i can get in the corners!)...this trait of turning well seems to follow the suzukis around...

yz450f--carries its weight very low, feels 20 lbs lighter even though it is the same weight, feels almost two-stroke-like... and of course reliability...

i was all set to throw down a chunk of change on the rmz, but something about the yzf has caught my...i will hold out a little longer before i make my decision, but i dont know that i can wait forever!

anyonoe have any objective comparisons between the two?

  • docweedon

Posted November 29, 2005 - 01:41 PM

#10

You can do what you like but I have always regretted getting second best, which I eventually sell to get what I really wanted. It just haunts me in the back of my mind when I know I settled.



You yamaha die hards crack me up...really.... :applause:

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  • MXKyle

Posted November 30, 2005 - 06:03 AM

#11

I can't wait to get my new '06 YZ. I live next door to a Yamaha shop that gives me a good discount on parts. That alone makes me want to stay with Yamaha for another year. That the bike looks awesome is a plus!

Even so I was on the verge of buying a new Suzuki after putting a few laps on one. They are great bikes period. If you buy one you won't regret it and it will be faster than anyone on this board can go.

Anyone paying attention would have noticed that by the end of the season at least half the pros at the nationals had switched from Honda to Suzuki. If the bike were really second best that simply would not have happened.

So buy any current bike and you will love it. They are all better than we are.

--KT--

  • yzkid999

Posted November 30, 2005 - 06:18 AM

#12

^^ I say I must agree with you we aren't going to be riding hard or fast like the pro's but we still want bang for our buck.Most of that stuff about the different bikes they talk about in magazines are so insignificant that most ppl won't notice it.

  • SCIENCE

Posted November 30, 2005 - 07:07 AM

#13

I can't wait to get my new '06 YZ. I live next door to a Yamaha shop that gives me a good discount on parts. That alone makes me want to stay with Yamaha for another year. That the bike looks awesome is a plus!

Even so I was on the verge of buying a new Suzuki after putting a few laps on one. They are great bikes period. If you buy one you won't regret it and it will be faster than anyone on this board can go.

Anyone paying attention would have noticed that by the end of the season at least half the pros at the nationals had switched from Honda to Suzuki. If the bike were really second best that simply would not have happened.

So buy any current bike and you will love it. They are all better than we are.

--KT--


The Suzuki has turned out to be a very reliable first year effort. It is a very good bike as well.

Regarding the pro's, keep in mind that Suzuki has, probably, the best Contingency program going from Novice right on up to Pro. Can't balme a 10-20 place National guy for getting as much as he can.

I agree w/you regarding the current 450's. They are all good!

  • briank3000

Posted November 30, 2005 - 08:19 PM

#14

I do not know where you live but I picked up my 06 yz450f from berts megamall in covina ca for 6950 otd tags reg everthing. picked it up 11/19/05. my salesman name was ethan.

  • skipn8r

Posted November 30, 2005 - 09:10 PM

#15

Well after looking, calling around, and talking to sales guys at several local dealerships I'm getting alittle discouraged. Everyone is giving me true OTD prices of 8 grand or more, 8600 was the highest so far.

I don't know what other fees are involved, but the TT store lists both the '06 YZ450F and the '06 RMZ450 at $6,199.....

  • kizzle426

Posted November 30, 2005 - 10:21 PM

#16

You could get one from the TT store to you for around $6500 i believe. Don't take that Cali OTD price BS. Protest and get it from the TT store. :applause: I went to my Yamaha shop here in Waco when it first came in. They're asking $6g's straight up out the door. Gotta love low demand. Everyone here rides KTM or Honda. Not too many Yamaha riders here. But I see more everytime I go out to the local track.

  • phat_450f

Posted December 01, 2005 - 05:02 AM

#17

if you dont mind the trip to central cali my local yamaha dealership is giving them for 7200 otd. it will save you a few hundred dollars for the 100 dollars it will take you to drive down and pick it up. Its Valley Cycle and Marine. I think there web site is www.vcm.com

  • phat_450f

Posted December 01, 2005 - 05:04 AM

#18

ops its www.vcm.net

  • felony

Posted December 01, 2005 - 05:41 AM

#19

the rmz is a good bike if you dont want to pay out the azz for a new yz.i always thought the ktms were expensive at almost 7k but they at least come with oring chain,fat bars hydraulic clutch etc,"ready to race".but yamaha will get their money cuz there are suckers born every minute that feel they gotta have one,like national caliber speed willbe automatic...

  • Dano426

Posted December 01, 2005 - 07:19 AM

#20

Yeah, if someone said they could get me one for around $6800 OTD I'd be all over it, in fact anything 7 grand or less I'd go for it.



First try to get one from the TT store. You could also check with http://www.motorcycle-brokers.com


The RMZ450s do sound like a nice bike as well. Remember, they do not have an auto adjusting cam chain tensioner. Failure to adjust the cam chain every 4-5 hours will cause engine failure.





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