Any word on the 'new' Rekluse auto clutch?


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  • Naru

Posted September 08, 2005 - 05:42 PM

#1

Any word on the 'new' Z-start auto clutch with the ability to use the clutch manually just like stock? I've heard it talked about by many people on this forum and others, but haven't seen anything actually available yet. Thanks. :banghead:

  • don87xr600

Posted September 08, 2005 - 05:56 PM

#2

> Can I still use my stock clutch lever to override the z-Start engagement?
Yes, The new z-Start External Adjuster works in place with your stock clutch cable. Rekluse Motorsports has developed an External Clutch Perch Adjuster The external adjuster is avalible for an additional $99 direct through Rekluse. The Clutch External Perch Adjuster allows you to retain full use of your clutch lever and adjust the z-Start Clutch from the handle bars.

  • wr450fyamaha

Posted September 08, 2005 - 06:17 PM

#3

id have to be able to use the clutch......how else would i do 4th gear burn outs? hey, will they ever make one for a xr650l?

  • qadsan

Posted September 08, 2005 - 06:58 PM

#4

> Can I still use my stock clutch lever to override the z-Start engagement?
Yes, The new z-Start External Adjuster works in place with your stock clutch cable. Rekluse Motorsports has developed an External Clutch Perch Adjuster The external adjuster is avalible for an additional $99 direct through Rekluse. The Clutch External Perch Adjuster allows you to retain full use of your clutch lever and adjust the z-Start Clutch from the handle bars.


Don, is this a new / different external clutch perch adjuster than what's previously been offered? I've had an external clutch perch adjuster from Rekluse on one of my 650r's for a couple years now. What's new about it?

Like Naru, BWB63 and some others, I'd like to know when the Rekluse issues with the 650r will be addressed. I've adjusted my riding styles around it for the longest time and I really like the z-Start, but it sure would be much nicer if it worked properly & immediate, especially when riding agressive which is where the shifting issues quickly show up.

  • don87xr600

Posted September 08, 2005 - 08:36 PM

#5

An External Adjuster allows you to quickly tune the z-Start to your riding style and riding conditions in just seconds. To get the most out of your automatic clutch, fine tuning of the stall speed and engagement rate is critical. The optimal automatic clutch engagement is very different for a casual trail rider and a pro motocrosser. Other automatic clutches require you to open up your engine and disassemble the clutch to make adjustments; making your engine vulnerable to dust, dirt, debris and taking away valuable riding time. With the z-Start External Adjuster, anyone can tune their z-Start clutch in just seconds; track-side or trail-side.

  • Naru

Posted September 08, 2005 - 10:53 PM

#6

Glad to see the copy and paste functions of your web browser are still working properly. Unfortunately, an external adjuster and a functioning clutch are two different things, which neither of the two above paragraphs from their FAQ address.

Anyway, I'll call Rekluse tomorrow and see what they say. A manual clutch holds a special place in my heart, even if it is only for wheelies and giving your friends mud showers :banghead: .

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  • don87xr600

Posted September 08, 2005 - 10:59 PM

#7

Just trying to help since obviously your web search function is on the fritz.

  • Naru

Posted September 08, 2005 - 11:03 PM

#8

:banghead:

Sometimes I wish people would read before they replied.

But so that I don't need to go dig up that pic of the kid at the special olympics crossing the finish, let me clarify. I've heard talk on several forums about a new (yes, beyond the external adjuster) Rekluse that gives you full manual clutch use and fixes some of the issues that have been brought up when dealing with shifing under heavy loads, which you do not get with the current setup. Just wondering when it was going to become available.

  • don87xr600

Posted September 08, 2005 - 11:05 PM

#9

The Clutch External Perch Adjuster allows you to retain full use of your clutch lever and adjust the z-Start Clutch from the handle bars.

  • Fingers

Posted September 08, 2005 - 11:22 PM

#10

I have had the Rekluse on my BRP for 5 months. There is no new Rekluse unit yet, nor is the company advertising one coming soon. Contrary to what Rekluse implies (and others here suggest) the external adjuster (I have it) DOES NOT overide the system nor can it disengage the clutch AFTER the unit has locked up. The external adjuster simply retards the initial engagement of the clutch to a higher RPM and very slightly modifies the speed/slippage of the unit locking up (imperceptively in my case) but only if used PRIOR TO THE APPLICATION OF THROTTLE. On my bike the clutch begins to engage at 1350 rpm (I have a tach on my bike) and is fully engaged at 1450 rpm. The bike idles at 1100 rpm. When I pull in the "clutch lever" (which is now connected to the Rekluse external adjuster) the clutch will begin to engage at 2200 rpm and fully engages at 2300 rpm. This is the max it will adjust to. Once the clutch has engaged the lever/external adjuster DOES NOTHING. For example if the clutch engaged at 1400 rpm and then I pull the lever at or above that rpm nothing will happen, the clutch will remain engaged unless and until the rpm decreases to less than 1300 (even with the lever continuously pulled in). So, IMOP, the external adjuster is of very limited worth, it will not alow you to disconnect the clutch system once engaged to downshift or upshift. This has been a big issue of mine because the fact that you CANNOT disconnect the clutch at rpms past what it originally engaged at, leads to transmission abuse in certain situations (power-on uphill shifts and downhill down-shifting which is particulary painfull). I like the system overall but it does have it faults.

  • qadsan

Posted September 09, 2005 - 06:10 AM

#11

What Fingers said is absolutely true.

  • PowerCell

Posted September 09, 2005 - 07:21 AM

#12

Like Naru, BWB63 and some others, I'd like to know when the Rekluse issues with the 650r will be addressed. I've adjusted my riding styles around it for the longest time and I really like the z-Start, but it sure would be much nicer if it worked properly & immediate, especially when riding agressive which is where the shifting issues quickly show up.


Been there, done that... if you really like the auto clutch and are serious about riding, the Revloc is the professional's choice for your big-bore.

I spent more than a year, and burn through many clutch packs trying to get the Rekluse to work properly. In the end, Sean at Rekluse admitted that their auto clutch just can't handle the torque generated by the big bikes.

I've since switched back to Revloc and like always it works perfect right out of the box. No adjustments needed, doesn't drag at idle, shifts easily, locks-up quickly, never slips, never wears out.

  • BWB63

Posted September 09, 2005 - 09:58 AM

#13

I just got off the phone with Al Youngworth (owner of Rekluse) and he said, it is getting close. I have had my Rekluse for a year now and it is a major pain at full race applications but, farting around with friends it is awesome. There are some draw backs even trail riding and I do miss more shifts with the Recluse then with a stock clutch. The Rekluse is much harder on the gears in the transmission if you don't wait between shifts.

Al said, they are real close on coming out with the Bata version of the new auto clutch for me to test but, the aluminum pressure plate wore way to fast. He is working on it this weekend and I am hoping to have it in a bike before the Baja 1000.
It has been a long road waiting for this new clutch. It sounds like the cat's meow..........

If the new clutch doesn't come out I'll return this Rekluse and get a Revloc. The Extra money is nothing to what I will have to pay in fixing the transmission.





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