How Loud is Loud?
Posted March 28, 2001 - 07:08 AM
Just a little humor for a Wednesday morning
Posted March 28, 2001 - 07:37 AM
Posted March 28, 2001 - 07:37 AM
Posted March 28, 2001 - 02:30 PM
That two people can look at the exact
same thing and see something totally
Each to their own opinion....at the end of the day it all boils down to choice...I choose to ride my Dub-R with certain mods..and I choose to enjoy myself. I also choose to not let anyone else effect those last two choices.
One thing is for sure from these posts... I have now learnt some of the mathematics of Db's
I love you all, your all great blokes.
Curt in Oz.
Posted March 28, 2001 - 02:48 PM
Noise is one issue in a very complex set of issues.
Posted March 28, 2001 - 03:47 PM
Posted March 28, 2001 - 04:47 PM
PS. All of this talk has me wondering just how loud all of our bikes REALLY are. I would be curious to see just how quiet (or loud) my renegade WR426 is in comparison to all the rest of you. Im now interested in buying a DB meter to own, kind of like a breathalizer(s?) but for sound. I'll keep you posted. Thanks, BA
[This message has been edited by Dan Lorenze (edited 03-28-2001).]
Posted March 28, 2001 - 05:41 PM
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Posted March 29, 2001 - 12:16 AM
Getting back to the original post, I'm not sure the issue is 'noisy' bikes. Noise is too subjective. You can't legislate around someones perception. People will complain about 'noisy' bikes if the bikes are where they don't want them to be in the first place. Quiet bikes is not going to pacify these people.
Just to demonstrate the intolerance, one of the guys I ride with lives in the country next to a farm. A rich guy has bought three ajoining cottages and knocked it all through into one huge house. He has now had a writ served on the farmer, cos the guy's tractor left mud on the road which dirtied the rich guy's £60K Mercedes.
I'm sorry that I've said all this, but don't have any answers. All I can say is that you guys over there really need to pull together and fight everything they try and push on you.
Good luck fellas.
(A pissed off Brit, grounded cos of Foot and Mouth)
'00 WR400F, YZ Timing, FMF Power Core IV2, Renthal Bars.
Posted March 29, 2001 - 07:20 AM
Posted March 29, 2001 - 08:19 AM
Those were great times and Southern California WAS a great place to grow up (actually I've never grown up, just matured ) and live in. Still have family there and visit usually once a year. And try and take in some event or ride if I can. It is a great place to visit but I wouldn't move back for any amount of money. Far to many people and the pace of life is not to my liking. Prefer to keep my fast "pace" to my 2 wheel endeavors.
Posted March 29, 2001 - 08:45 AM
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Posted March 30, 2001 - 05:23 PM
And not to open a can of worms here.
I'm an NRA member. I realize that the money I give goes toward legislation against gun control. I own three firearms, a handgun for protection, a shot gun for bird hunting and a high powered rifle for large game.
I also beleive that there is very little reason to own a fully automatic weapon or any para military weapon (read: my personal beleif, not imposing on yours). But I also understand that if we do allow the government to control those firearms. The control WILL NOT stop there.
Please let's not get off topic due to my choice in owning firearms.
All of this talk has made me think about my E-Series w/12 discs.
And now pmaust, has made me think about control, concession and where does it end?
Aside from being members of the AMA, Blue Ribbon coalition and voicing our opinions on polls.
What can we proactivly do, as individuals and as a collective group? I already pick up trash, vote when possible and give to groups that fight for our rights as OHV'ers.
Posted March 30, 2001 - 06:38 PM
1. Image - Lets work on that. Lets get together with local bike clubs, private groups and so on to organize charity runs and races. Let talk with Blue Ribbon and AMA about doing this as well.
2. I am not a member of any bike club..Maybe I should be. But, we could encourage our clubs to get more involved in our communities through charitable events, being big brothers /sisters and giving kids who otherwise might not get a chance to get involved in our sport. Take a kid to a Motocross event or X-game. You get my drift?
3. In local and state fairs bike clubs could set up a booth. Lets get together with AMA/DistrictXX/Blueribbon and put together material that shows how we care about our environment and what we are doing about it. We do volunteer work to help maintain trails..Lets put together pamlets with pictures to distribute to the population at large.
4. How about fund raisers to raise money for our cause. Money that could go to Blueribbon, AMA, legal defence funds et cetera. Grassroots support begins one person at a time.
5. Lets not forget to include out buddies who spend most if not all their time on the DR or YZ etc sides of ThumperTalk. There is strength in numbers. Somehow when an issue comes up that affects us all we all need to know about it so we can pool our resources.
There are other off-road forums as well. Let s cross polinate with them. Also, with 4 wheel clubs, gun clubs, boaters, jet skiers, and anyone else whose rights are threatened. Somehow we need a forum to pull all of us together for the common cause of preserving our freedoms. The more brains, money and resources we put together the better. Divided we fall united we stand a much better chance(the old strength in numbers thing).
6. Go on the offensive...We need to start producing reports that reflect a balanced view of what we do. That challege junk science and wild claims about the environment. What do you guys know about the desert tortise? Is it nocturnal? Does it hibernate in the winter time when we would most likely be riding in the desert? I don't know either but I can garuntee you that I will learn because knowlege is our friend. We must be willing to make sound and reasoned rebuttle to hate mongering and extremism.
Hope this helps. Also, if you get any good ideas of things to try make sure you pass it along to the rest of us. Thanks, Paul M.